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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-04-27 TranscriptionPage 1 ITEM 2. OUTSTANDING STUDENT CITIZENSHIP AWARDS - Longfellow Elementary Hayek: Would the students from Longfellow Elementary please come forward. Well hello everyone, come on over here. Thanks. Well, it's a special night for us, uh, tonight...at the beginning of every meeting, we get to see three superstars from Longfellow who, uh, have been selected by your school to come and talk to the City Council and tell us a little bit about yourselves. I'm going to give you guys an award, but first we'd like to hear from each of you. So I'll hand the mic to you, and you can tell us a little bit about yourselves. Apolonio: My name is Alma and uh, this is a community service that I do. I think that I really earned this because when the flood happened my mom and my big sister and I went to fill sandbags. We all helped like when the sand was gone and we all... and we were all done we went to the next door neighbor. Someone asked where did we come from. We said we just came from over there, then it started raining, but we kept on going. The lady said when we were done that she wanted to give us something. Then we were done. She wanted to give us a hundred dollars just for sandbagging. My mom wouldn't accept it. She said we only did this because we care about the community, but the lady insisted to keep it. So we did, but we gave it to the school fundraiser. We also got sick, but like I said before, it was worth it. (applause) McCray: My name is Wakemia McCray. I am writing this letter to inform you about all that I have done for my school and community. During school I participate in three activities -safety patrol, pals, and recycling. In safety patrol I help kids cross the street. In pals I help the ones on the school playground that are having conflicts. In recycling I help others collect recycling bins from classes so that they can be sent to the recycling center. I also participated in a bike...bake sale for the Shelter House. These are some of the ways I help my school and community. (applause) Galstad: My name is Evelyn Galstad and I go to Longfellow Elementary. I try my hardest at everything. I'm involved in sports, including softball, skiing and basketball. I play the viola and the piano. I also sing in the Creshenda Children's Choir. At the age of 10 I created a charity called Music for It is a charity to benefit the Animal Shelter. I babysit my little God sister who I love very much. Also this year I have been very busy. This year I starred in an opera... starred in an opera, Brundabar, as Ann and I also starred in a French opera as Jeanette, called Le At school I have helped organize a bake sale to raise money for charities. I'm also a safety patrol member and I help keep students at my school safe. As you can see, I try my best and hardest at everything, and that's why I'd like to be considered one of the Iowa City City Council award leaders. (applause) Hayek: You are three very busy young women! Um, that's just...wonderful, and we really appreciate it, and you do a lot at your schools, and you've done a lot for This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 2 your community, and that's why you're here tonight. We have an award for each of you, and I will read...read it for you, and then hand it out. It's called the Citizenship Award, and it says for her outstanding qualities of leadership within Longfellow Elementary, as well as the community, and for her sense of responsibility and helpfulness to others, we recognize you as an Outstanding Student Citizen. Your community is proud of you. Presented by the Iowa City City Council, Apri12010. So I'll hand these out to you now. I've got to set this down so I can do that. Congratulations! (applause) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 3 ITEM 3. PROCLAMATIONS. b) Arbor Day - Apri130, 2010 Hayek: (reads proclamation) Karr: Here to accept the proclamation is Parks and Forestry Superintendent Terry Robinson. (applause) Robinson: I'd like to thank the City Council for their continued support, and uh, especially to all of you this Friday at 12:00 up by Preucil School we'll be planting the official Arbor Day trees, and you're more than welcome to come and turn a shovel with us, especially our new Council Members who may not have been to an Arbor Day planting before and uh, Mr. Hayek, uh, Mayor, you're more than welcome to come (noise on mic) oops! Excuse me! Thank you very much! Hayek: Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 4 ITEM 3. PROCLAMATIONS. c) Mental Health Month -May, 2010 Hayek: Last, but certainly not least, um, the following proclamation. (reads proclamation) Karr: Here to accept the proclamation is Nyle Jessen, NAMI of Johnson County. (applause) Jessen: Uh, Mayor, City Council Members, thank you very much for this proclamation. ] invite everyone here to come to our walk which will be May 8`h, Saturday, uh, registration and entertainment starts at 9:00. Registration is free. Uh, come walk with us. This is a very important issue, and um, we...we need your support. Thank you again. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of April 27, 2010. Page 5 ITEM 4. PRESENTATION. Airport Commission Presentation - 5 Year Strategic Plan Horan: Hi! I'm Howard Horan. I'm Chair of the Airport Commission, again, um. Mike is passing out, uh, our Strategic Plan, our 5-year Strategic Plan, uh, we've developed this, uh, through our meetings since December, uh, with the very, very capable help of Jeff Davidson, who, uh, took us through a, uh, charette and uh...uh, process of writing on the, uh, writing on the wall and uh, I don't think I've had...I don't think I've had such a nice time doing that. He was very clear and (coughing, unable to hear) very quickly. Um...as you look these over, you'll see that they're pretty consistent. They don't seem to change very much over time, but um, since we've, uh, got this high on our minds, I would like to tape it to each Commissioner's forehead so that they can always keep them in mind as we, uh, as we uh, as we move along. Any questions? Well, we, uh, urge your approval, and thank you very much. Hayek: (mumbled) Anyone else from the Commission? Okay. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 6 ITEM 9. DETERMINING AN AREA OF THE CITY TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA, AND THAT THE REHABILITATION, CONSERVATION, REDEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT, OR A COMBINATION THEREOF, OF SUCH AREA IS NECESSARY IN THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY; DESIGNATING SUCH AREA AS APPROPRIATE FOR AN URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT; AND ADOPTING THE MOSS GREEN URBAN VILLAGE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN THEREFOR. a) PUBLIC HEARING Hayek: This is a public hearing. (bangs gavel) Public hearing is open. Ford: Good evening, I'm Wendy Ford, the Economic Development Coordinator for the City of Iowa City and as you know, the Moss Green Urban Village urban renewal plan is before you. This is the, uh, public hearing for it and for those who don't know, this, um, is a project that was brought forward to us, um, at the request of the owners and uh, because they would like to develop the land that is, uh, to the north of Interstate 80 and to the west of, uh, Highway 1. In order to do so, they need a public road to get there, and in order to, uh, get the public road, they would like some public assistance, and so we have been working with them for months on an urban renewal plan, on creating an urban renewal plan, that would match with the goals of the City's Comprehensive Plan and provide them a way in which they could develop that land, and um, thus bring more value into the city. Um, the, uh, plan before you calls for, um, a road and the development of nearly, uh, or around 242 acres in this area, and um, I'm here to answer any questions that you might have at this time. Hayek: Any questions for Wendy? Okay. Pelds: Uh, good evening, Honorable Mayor, Members of the Council, my name is Wally Pelds with Pelds Engineering and Eco-4, representing the Moss family, Moss Family Farms, and Moss Green Urban Village. Um, before...earlier in the consent agenda you passed the motion for the hearing where we hope to highlight our development, where it's headed to. We've been working diligently with staff. We have an exciting adventure to take you on, uh, at the next public hearing, so we're...we're excited to show you what we've gotten to. Um, on this topic itself, uh, if you have any questions for us of the, uh, from the developer's side, we'd be happy to answer those at this time. Thanks! Hayek: Thanks, Wally. Anyone else wish to address the Council on this issue? (bangs gavel) Public hearing is closed. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 7 b) RESOLUTION Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution. Bailey: Second. CONSIDER A Hayek: Moved by Wilburn, seconded by Bailey. Discussion? Roll call, please. Item passes 7-0. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 8 ITEM 11. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 8, ENTITLED "POLICE REGULATIONS," CHAPTER 5, ENTITLED "MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES," SECTION 2, ENTITLED "AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING," TO PROHIBIT SOLICITING FOR MONEY IN LIMITED AREAS IN THE DOWNTOWN. (FIRST CONSIDERATION) Champion: Move first consideration. Mims: Second. Hayek: Moved by Champion, seconded by Mims. Discussion? Arnold: Hello, thank you. I'm Nick Arnold. I'm the Executive Director of the Downtown Association. Um, we actually sent you a letter about this. We're definitely very appreciative of your steps in considering this. Um, our view has always been that downtown Iowa City is open and accessible to everyone. We think that, uh, this proposed ordinance will do a great job in opening up some thoroughfares and...and allowing some better access to our retail merchants and restaurants downtown, and again, just want to say thank you for your consideration. And to answer any questions you might have as well. Thank you. Hayek: Thanks, Nick. Anyone else from the public who wishes to address us on this issue? Ross: Hi, I'm Brandon Ross, uh, thank you for, uh, allowing me to speak a little bit about this. I, uh, I find that, um, that this ordinance, even though it won't affect what maybe people might not consider large amounts of area, uh, or all behaviors in the city, I still think that, um, that is a...that it is a cynical disregard for those people who are less fortunate than ourselves. Um, I feel like right now we're in an economic, uh, disaster, uh, we are having a jobless, uh, recovery. That, uh, people who are homeless and panhandling...aggressive is a funny word, by the way. You know what is aggressing... sometimes if someone looks at you you feel like that's aggressive too. So that gives a lot of discretion to the police. But a lot of these people who are on... are on the streets humbling themselves before the public, they don't have any other, uh, any other method, and by restricting them to an even smaller area, I think is...is showing, uh, a spirited meanness in general, and not something that this particular city wants to be associated with. These are people who have lost their jobs. They've been demoralized by that, perhaps by ill health. A lot of the people who are on the ped mall, uh, panhandling are actually people with health problems who cannot afford health insurance. Some of those people I have noticed are also, uh, some of our war veterans, and um, these are people who are suffering after effects of going to war and serving, uh, serving us, uh, in this country, and now have ended up on the streets. We're celebrating here This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 9 today, uh, many great things, uh, Mayor Hayek is bringing up things like, uh, the baby boom month, um, having... considering mental health by, uh, by considering a week designated for that. We're celebrating our children, uh, today, which is very nice, and uh, my kid...my kid plays violin and piano and rides horseback and such, and you know, these people who are homeless can't afford to do these things, and many of these people who are homeless, um, they get less money than the allowances that we give to our own children. And these people who were once children, they grew up and some of them were also, uh, what you might call advanced children. They were not just, you know, they were children too, and I think that...when I think of these people, especially I think...I always come back to...uh, what Franklin Roosevelt said, which I think would be the way to celebrate, uh, the community as a White House community is to respect his words and what Franklin Roosevelt said is the test of progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much, but whether we provide enough for those who have little. As I look at the Council I see you up there, every one of you has a job, a house, many of you have had your college educations paid for by parents, many of you have gone on to graduate school and traveled the world, and people who are looking in tonight who are watching this program, who are seeing the City Council, every single one of you is in a house eating three meals a day. And I think that, uh, in respect for these people that this ordinance is wrong and they've tried to pass these things in many places and sometimes successfully. I also am interested in the bene...in the benefits of the economic, uh, situation in downtown, and I support downtown. I shop downtown. I don't go out to other areas. And right now what you are doing is you're discriminating. What about the 20-year-olds and 21-year-olds? I feel like I'm being accosted more by drunken people downtown than I am by any poor, homeless people, and musicians...when Iran for Council last time, Mayor Hayek, now Mayor Hayek, then candidate said, "Look, Iowa City could be the next Austin!" It's that kind of a place. I know that Matt, uh, appreciates music and has supported music, but look! Don't make the space for music even smaller than it is. If you're going to allow people to walk and drive drunkenly all over town, you can't pass an ordinance like this! So in closing I hope that you don't, uh, pass this ordinance. I think it's an easy thing to pass because you have the ear... you have the ear of a few people with a lot of money who want to protect their businesses. I say this...I don't think that homeless people and musicians hurt business. In fact, I think when you see that homeless people and musicians are respected, I think that it does, uh, create a lighthouse community that other people want to come to, especially with musicians. Do you know how many people I hear that say, "I love coming to Iowa City because when you come downtown you see musicians on every corner." You know, you see people juggling. That guy with the unicycle, you see him going by? There's lots of great stuff. Don't...don't inhibit that. Don't make this a...a place which is...which is narrow. Thank you so much. Hayek: Anyone else wishing to address the Council on this item? Discussion by the Council? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 10 Champion: Well, I appreciate your comments, Brandon, but uh, being a large supporter of social services, I know they endorse us trying to stop the panhandling downtown. They feel it takes away from them. We have ample social services in this community, and it's hard to decided who is really homeless and is asking for money downtown, cause a lot of them are not, but I do appreciate your comments and I know you mean well by them, and I also mean well by supporting this, and we will try and find other ways to collect money. Wright: Well, I think we all mean well. Champion: Yeah! Wright: Whatever the issue happens to be up here, um...I don't support this ordinance. I think it is...I find it to be anti-poor and anti-people who aren't able to wear designer clothes. I think if we had people in designer suits standing on the corners asking for money, this would be a very different discussion. Uh, and I...I have to agree with, uh, Mr. Ross. I think this represents a spirit of meanness on the part of the community, and a spirit which denies the fact that the poor are with us. These are not necessarily homeless people. Many of these people do have homes, uh, many of these people do have sources of income that are just simply not adequate to maintain to whatever physical, mental, or other problems they happen to have. Uh, moreover, I find this is a...just a slow whittling away at guaranteed First Amendment, Constitutional rights in our community, uh...I find such actions as this one to be truly mean-spirited and small. I will not support this. Wilburn: Issues of homelessness and poverty should make a community, uh, uncomfortable. Uh, it's not something that people are comfortable talking about and uh, leads to conversations about, uh, where, um, oh, related to haves and haves-nots and...and um...um, what a community should be doing, in terms of addressing, uh, these issues. Uh, this does, uh, place some restrictions. Uh, it does not completely eliminate the activity of, um, panhandling in the community. Um, and uh, when this first came amongst, uh, for the Council a few years ago, uh, at the time I said I would not support it because there was, um, a vigorous effort in the community prevent, uh, one particular agency that's providing services, Shelter House in particular, uh, to expand a new facility, um, at the time while....um, currently while there are still a couple of lawsuits out related, uh, you can see in town that Shelter House is, uh, has broken ground. Their...their facility is being constructed, and uh, they have a rigorous, uh, funding campaign going on, and I encourage the community to contribute to that. Um, we are also having to juggle public interest and uh, the interest of individuals that are participating in the activity, and community members that are supporting them. Um, we're trying to channel that support towards the agencies that are trying to address some of the, uh, both the micro issues, but also the macro issues related to, uh, homelessness and poverty, and um, because those supports are going on, and again, the community is, uh, getting a new resource to address, uh, at least the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 11 housing element, and uh, issues related to job and mental health support, uh, I will go ahead and support this at this time, uh, and again, um, it is an issue that should make people uncomfortable, um, and uh, hopeful that the community will come forward to help channel our effort to try and have effective, um, response to, uh, those...those larger issues that do affect people we do know. So I will be supporting it. Hayek: Uh, I will support it as well. I, uh, I appreciate Mr. Ross's comments. They're always eloquent, and uh, he makes some excellent points; however, I think this approach, uh, does an excellent job at being sensitive to the importance of balancing the rights of pedestrians downtown with an individual's right~of assembly, and that's what this comes down to. I think it's a reasonable approach, uh, and uh, we...really pushes it over the edges into something that I can fully support is...is the simultaneous effort on the City's part to encourage donors through these donation meters that will be placed around downtown, uh, to, uh, make their donations, um, into a...a pot or a fund that will then be distributed to local human service agencies who research suggests are far better equipped to help those in need, um, and I think that's an effective way of both, uh, changing the situation downtown, but also supporting those groups that are well equipped to help those in need. So, I...I think it's a good approach, it's a sensitive approach, and I will support it. Bailey: Well, I agree with Ross. I...I, um, think poverty and homelessness should make us all uncomfortable and it's clear in this community that it does. Um, we have difficulty talking about issues of housing and homelessness, um, regarding this...ordinance, Ithink it is an attempt to balance the interests of different groups and populations. I mean, we do have to be concerned about our downtown. We do have to be concerned about that generally, and fundamentally with the program that...that says this community supports addressing these issues in these particular ways, through organizations and institutions that have been set up to be able to address some of the systemic issues around, um, lack of access to medical care, lack of access to um, to food, um, directing people's donations, not to individuals, but to programs that can better address some of the broader issues in our community I think is a far, um, it's a smarter way to do it. Systemically I think it'll create greater change, and that's what we need to see in this community. I think we need to continue to have these kinds of discussions. I'm always concerned where, um, issues of, uh, civil liberties and constitutional free, uh, rights to free speech. I'm somewhat concerned about musicians, but I think...because that was, that is something that I enjoy downtown is the presence of street musicians, but I think that this does a good job of balancing interests, and I think we will continue to have to look at it and see if it needs additional, um, tweaking so to speak. So I will be supporting it. Dickens: I'll be supporting it as well. Um...I do have a business downtown. I'm probably at the busiest corner for panhandling and aggressive panhandling. Uh, we had customers that actually are afraid to come downtown, and they have told us that This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 12 they will not come down. They're afraid to come downtown, and...and I don't feel that that's right. I do...they're not just uncomfortable, they are scared, and uh, I don't disagree that, uh, that we are uncomfortable with the homeless, but I...I feel this ordinance, because it was crafted with all the Downtown Association, with the City, is a...is a good start to, uh, to try to alleviate the problem. Hayek: If there's no further discussion, roll call, please. Item passes 6-1. Karr: Motion to accept correspondence. Wilburn: So moved. Mims: Second. Hayek: Uh, moved by Wilburn, seconded by Mims. Discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. Motion carries unanimously, and the item passes 6-1, Wright in the negative. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 13 ITEM 12. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 6, ENTITLED "PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY," CHAPTER 10, ENTITLED "SMOKE FREE PLACES," TO PROHIBIT SMOKING THROUGHOUT CITY PLAZA AND NEAR SIDEWALK CAFES AND TO MAKE THE SMOKING PROHIBITION AT THE FARMERS MARKET CONSISTENT WITH THE EXPANSION IN HOURS AND LOCATION. (FIRST CONSIDERATION) Wright: Move first consideration. Mims: Second. Hayek: Moved by Wright, seconded by Mims. Discussion? Mr. Arnold. Arnold: I'm still Nick Arnold, and I'm still with the Downtown Association! I again would like to thank you for taking this under consideration, this ordinance here. Um, Downtown Association, again, uh, feels that this does a, this ordinance would do a great job in both the aesthetics of downtown. I know many of you have offices or businesses downtown and um, challenge you to county cigarette butts on the next walk to your...to your office or to your store, um, so we think it will help with the aesthetic appeal of downtown, and also of course, um, with the...the health of those downtown who do not smoke, while still providing, um, space for...for smokers to, um, to enjoy a cigarette. Um, of course we would assume this would...the alleyways would, um, have some sort of disposal bins and some lighting for...for nighttime to make this a safe experience for those folks in the alleys as well. But otherwise just want to say again thank you for your consideration and be happy to answer any questions you might have. Champion: Is the Downtown Association going to provide any kind of receptacle for cigarettes in the alleys? Arnold: It hasn't been discussed. I can definitely bring that up. We have our Board meeting tomorrow morning. And I can bring that up (both talking) Bailey: I also think when you're concerned about aesthetics, I think that's a really good point, that is something we're trying to address here, but it's...it's going to take all of us and um, reminding people that, if those go into the gutter they go into the river, and they're not biodegradable, those cigarette butts, so I mean, let's take good care to, uh, look at this comprehensively. Arnold: Absolutely! Thank you! Champion: I think the other thing you're going to have to watch, uh, although I'm in favor of this ordinance and actually suggested it even before I was on the City Council, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 14 um, that where are these smokers...they're not always considerate. Smokers are not always considerate. Um, where are they going to go? I mean, are they going in front of Herteen and Stocker? Joseph Steakhouse? The yoga place? I mean, this is a concern of mine, is what's going to happen to these businesses around...around the ped mall that are right on the ped mall. So that's another thing we might have to address somehow. Arnold: Thank you. Hayek: Thanks, Mr. Arnold. Squier: My name's Chris Squier, um, I'm a member of CAFE. I serve on the State Commission for Tobacco Prevention and Control, so I'd just like to add my voice to support this. I think this is a progressive ordinance. Um, I think there's lots of evidence to suggest that this is good. Health is included in the ordinance, and we know that there are small but definite health risks from smoking outside, especially for compromised people. That's good. We've already touched upon the litter question, um, cigarette butts are almost indestructible. They elute toxins into water. Um, there's another factor, that is role modeling for young people seeing people smoking all the time is a very strong encouragement, that it's something to do that everyone does it, that it's cool, um, we know that everyone doesn't do it, it isn't cool, and we've got a lot of young people in our community that helps reduce smoking too. Um, finally I think as we get used to clean air, we get increasingly annoyed by going out and having to walk through clouds of smoke. You might say that well, legislating against, um, unpleasantness is just (mumbled) but I'd also say that public urination is not a health risk. It's just unpleasant, and we don't allow that. When you consider smoking, it's not far away from that. So I think there's lots of reasons. This is in the tradition of a city council that, a couple of you anyway will remember, some seven years ago passed one of the first ordinances, smoke-free restaurants in the state. So this is a good tradition. Thank you. Hayek: Anyone else from the public? Council? Bailey: Couple of years ago we talked about doing a little bit more with our alleys and I think Mr. Arnold brings up an interesting point about receptacles, as well as lighting, and that should be something that maybe we can explore with the DTA, um, if that's where people are going to end up smoking, and that's what we would hope, um, because that will be the designated areas. I think that they should be at least, um, not...not as they are now. Wright: Also something we take up when we do our alleys discussion later this year. Bailey: Right, I think we should keep the downtown alleys in mind, for sure. Hayek: Why don't we tuck that away; I think that's a good point. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 15 Bailey: And lighting particularly, I thought that was a really good point. Hayek: Any other Council discussion on this? Roll call, please. Item passes 7-0. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 16 ITEM 15. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A REVISED SCHEDULE OF FEES AND CHARGES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. Champion: Move the resolution. Wilburn: Second. Hayek: Moved by Champion, seconded by Wilburn. Discussion? If you're from the public and wish to address us, please come forward. Graf: Hi, my name is Bill Graf, um, tonight I'm speaking on behalf of Iowa City Boys' Baseball. Um...first let me apologize. I would...attended your informal session last night, but I was late by about a half hour and I missed the discussion on this item. I was out helping a, uh, team of ball players, um, with their first practice, um, helping the parents organize their first practice. It was some six-year-olds, and uh, if you know six-year-olds, they don't stand in one spot more than, uh, about one second, and um, I'm a little bit too old for this, um, and I was by the end of the hour and a half, I was, um, wondering why I was out there, and there was one boy in particular, um, I won't name names, but I'll call him Skippy, um, that did not stand still and did not keep his mouth shut, and would not do anything. He had a batting helmet on and he didn't take it off even when he was in the field, and uh, I felt sorry for his parents actually at the end of the night (laughter) but, uh, he was...he was a wonderful child and he kept on talking and talking and talking, even when I was talking, and um, and at the end of the night I said good-bye Skippy, um, see you at the next practice, uh, which I don't plan to attend...no! I will be there (laughter) um, but you know, he ran off and then he stopped and he turned around and I was talking to another parent and he tugged on my pants and he said, "Thanks, Coach!" And at that moment I decided that's why I'd been involved with Iowa City Boys' Baseball since 1976, um, it's for those moments! Those moments when you look into asix-year-old's eyes and they say thank you! And I've been a volunteer, and we all are volunteers, all the coaches we have, and all of the staff, all the Board Members, we're all volunteers. And we're an affiliate group, and I looked at the word affiliate, and it means having a son, or to be a... equitable, a daughter, um, so we are sons and daughters of the City! And, um, as sons and daughters of City, I am speaking against this...this, uh, I don't know if it's an ordinance or what it is, but I'm speaking against it. I don't believe we should be charged for the diamonds. Organization was started 54 years ago. Fifty-four years ago! Uh, I don't think Terry, uh, was coaching at that time. Maybe you were, I don't know (laughter). But, um, it was started by a person named Bill Gabe Williams. Gabe was on our Board up until two years ago, um, and he had to be in a retirement home and...in a different city, but um, he took a bunch of boys, went out to Lower City Park, which by the way was donated for kids to play ball, baseball. It was donated to the City for the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 17 expressed reason for kids to play baseball. So you got this Lower City Park free. You didn't have to pay for it! Um, for kids to play baseball! Why should we charge kids to play baseball there? Um...uh, fields were, lot of the fields were in corn at the time, so space was cleared out. We had one field and we cleared space out. We all...have an all-volunteer organization. We put up the first fences. We, um, we lighted two diamonds. There are two diamonds lit. We paid for electricity on this field until the flood of 2008, um, so even when the City was charging, uh, college kids to play at night and paying for the electricity to the field, uh, $21 I think it costs to pay for a lighted field, um, we're paying for electricity. Iowa City Boys' Baseball, out of our funds. So, we worked with the City all these years. Why are we being charged? Um, we lighted the diamonds, as I said, um...we...we actually, in the early years, we cut grass. We did everything we needed to do to play in those diamonds. When it rained we had parents out there with sand trying to put sand in the puddles and right the field so we could start to play. We even chalked the diamonds. There were times when we even got our lawn mowers and cut the grass. Um, during the...after the flood, we had the Minnesota Vikings came down, some players -the owner and some players -and we got together a bunch of people and we helped, they helped clean up the diamonds. They actually...the City did most of it, um, beforehand, but uh, during the flood, uh, we called parents up and we built our new clubhouse...well, our first clubhouse, we built our first clubhouse all out of our own money. We raised the money for it, and we built it. It burned down about three years before the flood, uh, of 2008. We built it up by hand, um, all of ourselves, with our own money and...and equipped it with our own money, and um, during the flood we built it up three-feet higher than the flood of the 80s flood, um, because we were smart. It probably worked, and then we sandbagged it two feet, put two feet of sandbag (mumbled) so we're five feet higher than the flood of, well, this flood was higher than that. So, uh, we cleaned it out. We called 14 people, we got 20. That's how our volunteer organization works! People want to help us out! So we had to clean out, um, and we got it all back into shape. Got equipment cleaned out, we got volunteer money, organizations that volunteer and give money to us. So we are a very much in...in...in 2008, um, like I said we had a really bad flood. We had people wading in the water. We were putting up lights at the time, and we got pictures of this, trying to hold our poles, light poles in place from floating down the river. Um, so we have a whole bunch of people that were really trying to help us out and...and do this. Now, um, I'm sorry I tried to take some notes and I can't even read my own handwriting. Hayek: And Mr. Graf, you're going to need to wrap up here. (both talking) Graf: Okay, I'll try to make it within one or two minutes. We charge 30...$30, okay, for a kid to play. Our registration fee has been that way for, I don't know, 20 or 30 years. Then we raised it from 25 to 30, uh, several years ago, but that's how much we charge our kids. And we have a number that...if they can't pay the $30, we don't charge them that $30. So we have a lot of fees. Okay, if...if um...for that they get a cap, a hat, umpires, some equipment, and coaches, education, it This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 18 covers everything. Um, so, you know, we have a lot of questions. Practices are come...we got to pay for practices. We're told we just pay for (mumbled). Some people tell us we have to (mumbled) practices. Um, some people tell us we have to pay 10% this year, 20% next year, 30% the year after, and 40% the fourth year and that's...that's where it caps. That's a lot of money for us. That would figure out, at four years, instead of kids paying 30...$30 of registration fee, they'd have to pay an extra $15. What we're asking for is just to work with the City. If...I'm not sure why they're trying to do this to us. I hear that they're...got to meet a budget. We'll help `em with their expenses. We'll chalk our own fields. We'll do whatever we have to do. They said, well, if we give money that covers our rental, that's fine. What happens if we put lights in the third field, which we'd like to do, and we spend $50,000 on lights. Does that mean we get rent for one year...free, or (mumbled) for five years free - I don't know. There's so many questions. I would urge you to vote no on this. If nothing else, vote to defer it so we have more time. This is the busiest time of the year for us registering...we have 410 kids this year, trying to get them all on a team, trying to call the parents, trying to do everything, and having to come here and speak on this it's...it's just been exhausting. So, I would urge you to vote no. These are kids, these are your own kids, these are kids, um, that...that are...are taxpayers and you're taxing a six-year-old, or you're taxing a 12-year-old or a... Hayek: Mr. Graf, you're going to need to conclude your comments. I apologize but we...we give everybody five minutes (both talking) Graf: I was going to have all our kids stand outside with candles and light `em and open the drapes for ya, like you did with the (mumbled) seven years ago, but they're all in bed so I can't do (laughter) Armstrong: Hi, my name is Jason Armstrong. I'm here on behalf of the Iowa City Kickers, and I've seen the agenda so I will be brief. I believe, uh, most of the Council has received, uh, some of our side of the story, our feelings on the matter as far as the proposed fees. Uh, we believe we do have a unique relationship with Parks. We've donated, uh, upwards of $400,000 over the last 15 years towards the, uh, the creation and upgrades to the parks and the facility out there, the Kickers Soccer Park. Um, our biggest concern is basically the impact that these fees are going to have down the road, especially as they increase, on the ability of our kids to be able to enroll, uh, like he said we also consider ourselves an inexpensive recreational activity, and uh, we do have a fair amount of scholarship players. We're actually working on increasing our amount of scholarship players because it's come to our attention a lot of kids would play if they're realized that....they don't necessarily have to pay to be involved. So that's something we're working towards. Uh, we understand that Parks has been working for months on trying to come up with a viable solution for this, and I appreciate that they're in a tight spot, but like I said our concern, uh, probably as it should, ties back to our kids in the program. Um, in closing, I'd just like to read our mission statement of our web site, which we try to constantly review and adhere to is that Iowa City This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 19 Kickers is a recreational soccer program that exists to provide opportunities for all youth to develop the love for soccer, soccer skills, sportsmanship, new friendships, a spirit of cooperation, and social skills through equal participation for all players. Uh, Iowa City Kickers, uh, has been a local fixture for decades. We've impacted thousands of families and people. We have approximately 1,200 and some players this season alone, and we stand behind our mission statement, and want to continue to be an inexpensive recreational option for all of our kids, and we are concerned that these fees will impact our ability to do this. That's it. Hayek: Thank you. Armstrong: Thank you. Hayek: Any other input from the public? Council discussion? Wilburn: I'll just start by, the organizations that are here and those that are not here, that utilize our Park facilities and...recreational facilities, thank you for your commitment, your dedication historically. Uh, also, um, have a soft spot in my heart for coaches. I also coach, uh, girls' softball and know the time commitment and the resources that you all put in trying to, uh, keep things affordable. Uh, and accessible, um, while...an important connection, opportunity, for young people in the community. Um, I'm supportive of this, um, what (mumbled) in front of us, as a, uh, as a compromise. Uh, we do have expenses, and uh, the same expenses that you are facing, the City has expenses associated with upkeep and maintenance, etc., etc. We also have, uh, competing interests. Um, the, you know I have people that come to me upset because we charge anything for parks because their tax dollars, everyone says you know I get my, you know, I'm contributing and now I'm getting double-dipping by having to pay for a (mumbled) or these types of things. Um, there are expenses associated with operating, maintaining facilities, and liability insurance and all of that, and uh, it's...it's a juggling thing that we have to do, and, you know, frankly too we have, uh, I have, uh, different groups that come to me because, uh, you know, the great groups like, uh, Kickers and...and baseball and the girls' softball, that they...upset because they get primary, uh, access during...during their seasons, uh, during select times, and Park staff has to juggle, you know, um, honoring the commitment and resources that they are operating something that benefits...uh, benefits us, that we don't have to hire staff to run those programs, um, but still maintaining some type of, uh, you know, so, uh, it's a matter of juggling...juggling interests, as well as the budgetary thing. Um, again, very appreciative of the work that you all do, um, I think some attempt to be flexible to honor your commitment and dedication, and uh, you know, I see people shaking their heads, uh, you know, in disagreement, but the fact of the matter is, uh, yes, your taxpayers...your tax dollars are going towards this, as are others, uh, but it costs money to operate these things. So, um, look forward to your ongoing support. I know you're committed and dedicated to your programs, and uh, you know, that's not going to disappear, um, but uh, this with other Parks and Rec This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 20 expenses too, you know, we do the best that we can to try and keep things affordable, and juggle those things, so not something that we like to have to do but it's a decision that has to be made. Bailey: I have a question for Mike Moran, um...I know that the Parks and Rec Commission and you have been working on this for quite some time. Can you, and, um, maybe you mentioned this last night and I'm just not remembering, but can you talk a little bit about, um, how you worked with these groups to come up with this or...or what kinds of discussions you had from the affiliate groups, I mean, I...Mr. Graf had a really great point. These are affiliate groups, and changing the relationship of the City with these groups overnight with a resolution, I think, um, is...is going to be difficult, and not exactly what you'd want to do. So tell me a little bit about their input and how you worked with them. Moran: We started the process in October after our budget discussions and then in November we took it to the Parks and Recreation Commission. Uh, from there we went with a couple of proposals, uh, to the Commission to consider and then after those proposals were, uh, batted around, we came up with one that we wanted to start with. We wrote a letter to all the affiliate groups and asked them to attend Commission meetings of December and January, either one or both in some cases. In the meantime, we have, uh, staff individuals that are liaisons with those affiliate groups that would attend their monthly meetings, as well, and work through, you know, the sessions that we had. Commission then, in addition, also had a... a special work session where they wanted to work out, and that's where the compromise came from, when we decided that we wanted to recognize the fact that they did give us money during the years and how we would make that match. And so after the December and January meetings then we started the process of just notifying the affiliate groups what we all came up with and...and what the Commission then ended up passing, and then uh, came here to this process. So it was about a four, five month process and it was one that was met with the Commission and then with individual staff. Bailey: Okay. So, of these groups, of these affiliate groups, how...how many of those were able to participate in discussions in December and January with the Commission? How many, you know, how many had dialog, versus how many received a letter? I mean, they all received a letter, right, but... Moran: They all received a letter, but uh, I'd have to go back to the minutes and...and...I know the two that are here were, uh, present, girls' softball was present. We had a couple of other affiliate groups, camera club and some other ones that were mentioned, that also came as well, uh, to the December and January Commission meetings. So I would say that...I'd bet almost all of them were at least present or at least contacted by staff...during that process. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 21 Bailey: And I read the minutes of the Parks and Rec Commission, but at any time did you consider simply, um, doing memorandums of understanding that would be different for each affiliate group, but working in that direction, rather than a blanket affiliate sort of approach, a fee approach. Moran: Well we talked about the memorandum of understanding, that would be the next step after this, is to establish the structure and then to establish the memorandum of understanding. Bailey: Why not the other way around? Moran: That's just what we came up with. We could have done that way, as well, come up with the memorandum... Bailey: So you anticipate that the MOU would be, um, basically the same, go in the same direction, for each organization...similar to what you proposed here. I'm just trying to clarify. Moran: Similar, yeah, but...but some of `em will be different, like we talked about last night, you know, the new ones that have come on board, we've...we've crafted new agreements with, and we...we don't use the same ones that we have with the existing affiliate groups that have been affiliate groups for a long time. Bailey: I think that's all I have for right now. Thanks. Champion: I have a question. Um, Mr. Graf mentioned an escalating, um, schedule. Did, was that absolute? I thought you said last night that would be looked at every year. Moran: Yeah, when we went through that, that was one of the proposals that we came forward with, and then when the Commission reevaluated that and looked at that, that's something that they'd like to look at, but it wasn't anything that was absolute. Champion: Right, that's (both talking) Moran: ...they wanted to do, if... if they did that, they wanted to go every other year, but they also wanted to meet with the affiliate groups every year for an evaluation of that. Champion: So that's not an absolute. Moran: Right. Bailey: So, if you're doing 15 MOU...oh, go ahead. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 22 Dilkes: In response to Connie, that would have to come to you for approval. Champion: Okay, thank you. Dilkes: Just as this one is doing. Bailey: I'm rethinking what I was saying. Thanks for the pause! No, um, if you...you're going to end up doing 15 MOUs, with each one of these affiliates. Moran: Correct. Bailey: Um, you know, I think... and it didn't occur to me last night, but from my perspective I think I would be more comfortable seeing those on a case-by-case than voting for a solid resolution. That would assure me that some dialog and some consideration had occurred. I think...I think Mr. Graf brings up a good point. If they want to put their $50,000 into lights, is that one year that we covered, or is that, um, multiple years, and getting a better understanding of those kinds of details would really help me, um, think about...understand that we had been fair to these groups that we have a special relationship with. It's just a perspective, but um... Moran: Well, we did have discussions of that on a Commission level as well, because every one of these organizations has provided something, and brought something to the table. Bailey: Sure! Moran: And so the...the discussion was, do we start something now or do we give people credit, and then if give credit, how much credit and, you know, all that so that's why the discussion was held to start... start structure anew and go from that point. Bailey: So why not start the structure with individual, um, just memorandum of understanding with each affiliate group, bringing those to Council and understanding what our relationship would be for a period of time with this group, understanding that that would probably be up for renewal in I don't know how long these typically last. Moran: One year is what we'd talked about initially. Bailey: Okay. I don't know. I think I would be more comfortable with that. I don't know how others feel about, I mean... Champion: My problem with it is that I'm wondering if it's going to discourage the groups from contributing, I mean like the Kickers have contributed a lot of money. I don't know if the boys' baseball's contributed money, but they certainly This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 23 contributed other things, and wonder if we're...what's the saying, biting off your...tongue to save your face or whatever it is. Bailey: Cutting off your nose to spite your face (several talking) Champion: Right, right (laughter). Thank you. Bailey: I think you cut it off, not bite it offl Champion: And that's the problem I have with it, cause some of these groups have been very generous, and understand that this costs the City a lot of money. I mean, it really does cost a lot of money to maintain these facilities. We may have gotten the parkland free, but we've paid dearly for it since, and I just...that's an expression my husband uses all the time with me, so I'm using it with you, but um, I...I just have some...some problems with it, although I understand your reason for it, and I'm much more happier with it now, uh, when you have the...the compromise, the eliminating the fee if there was certain contributions. But I...I don't think I'll support it. Wright: As I've thought about this, this seems to be a policy that just needs a little bit more work...before I'd support it. I understand that the parks do cost a lot, and that the City is...is strapped, uh, in a number of different areas, but...I'm not sure all the angles have been given the consideration that I'd like to see, so I won't support it either. Wilburn: Before other Council Members comment, I...I, just, Mike, can you comment too just on some of the other demands and strains on facility usage, uh, and...and groups, I mean, that's been my experience, what I talked about, uh, in terms of both, uh, again, uh, individuals, um...upset that, you know, my tax dollars pay for this, why should I have to...to, uh, other groups and clubs wanted to....and having to juggle, juggle all that, because uh, and can you comment on budgetary pressures, uh, because I'll remind the Council that, uh, we've had this informal policy with Parks and Rec that 40% of their, um, expenses are covered by fees, and that's, you know, there's....I think there's a bigger budgetary issue here too, but could you comment on those. Moran: Well we've set up, established a fee schedule so that non-affiliate groups pay more, obviously, than just regular rental groups, and the precedence that has been set is that we always have to hold the schedules out until we get schedules from our affiliate groups and then we rent them out to everybody else. And so that causes us pain and angsternation cause most of the private clubs want to start practicing in February and March, and we just can't simply fill that up, and they have schedules to meet and so we have to put them off for a long time, so that's where our pain comes from is that we're always doing maintenance and trying to keep them healthy, and then once everything starts, then we have to make sure that we don't overuse them and overplay them. Uh, the facilities are...are used This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 24 constantly and so we have...we get into a protection mode after we get that all set, and so our budgetary stuff comes from, uh, weekend use, from maintenance use and trying to keep those diamonds active, uh, during the whole summer, because we don't want to lose them. Wilburn: So there is...and...that's the other comment, is there is priority usage for, with these affiliate groups, uh... Moran: Right. Wilburn: ...um, relative to other organizations and clubs, and individuals that want to just go and utilize facilities though. Bailey: Well, and I think that that's great, and that's something that could be better clarified with the schedule in....in some kind of dialog and discussion about, you know, being part of an affiliate group means these sorts of things. We can't hold these indefinitely. We need your schedule by `x' date. I mean, I think it...I think the benefits can work both ways. I agree with Mike. I think that this just...from my, um, perspective, um, when I hear that, you know, there are 15 groups on this list and not all have really communicated and been in dialog with the Commission, and with staff, I think some more discussion should take place. I don't want to delay this. I understand our budgetary concerns. I want to move this along, but I think that that would benefit, um, and get us to what we're trying to get to, in a way that would, um, be a more community-building approach than a resolution for a policy. And that... and then trying to work out an agreement. Working out the agreement first that generally addresses perhaps some unique relationships here. Wright: I think what...what we're referring to is something that may take some more work on the part of the Commission, perhaps a fair amount more work, but I think in the end it's going to end up with a product that's going to be a little more acceptable to everybody. Bailey: And I...I look for benefits on both sides. I'm not saying we should be giving away the farm here. I understand that we have to maintain these facilities, and I think it's great, and I have that expectation, and if... if you're having problems with booking because the affiliate groups are taking their time and dragging their feet on their schedules, I think that that needs to be part of the deal. Um, but...I...I would rather...I would rather have that discussion than do a broad resolution that sort of blanketly applies to everybody, and may, as Connie said, cut off our nose to spite our face. We might not get that third field lit because they...they don't want to invest in that way. Um... Hayek: The problem...the challenge I see is, you know, as Ross pointed out, um, the Council has placed the Parks and Rec department and Commission in this position, uh, in part, um, through our expectation of... of the generation of fees to This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 25 support its budget and through the addition of incredible amounts of new parkland, infrastructure, and other assets on that parkland, and programming demands, that the community wants, um, but that has to be paid for, and we haven't added staff over... in recent years, and you know, Connie, you've...you've pointed that out, that the demands on our Parks and Rec budget actually are...are probably more extreme relative to other departments, uh, at least presently, and so we're in a tough position and... and I think they're following our direction on this, um, may, you know, maybe this needs more work, more thought, but it seems to me that coming up with a blanket policy that is consistent across groups, um, may have a disparate impact on certain groups, but avoids the thorny and probably unsolvable discussion, um, where we try to...we try to quantify what a given group has contributed to the City over the course of, in some cases decades. If my numbers are right, boys' baseball started in the mid- 1950s and there's no way to go back and...and...and quantify that. I started playing t-ball in 76 and...and went all the way through the system, um, so...I don't know how we do that. Bailey: I don't want a backward look; I want a forward look. I want to say, we've had a great relationship. Well, we need a little counseling here. Let's see what our relationship is going to look going forward, and this is what Parks and Rec, and the Council, needs from you to cover these fees, and this is your expectation. Can we work something out, and if they come and it's irreconcilable differences, we can pass this resolution, you know, in July. Hayek: But I...I think what's proposed is forwarding looking, in that the...the credit that is, uh, imbedded in this policy, uh, allows groups that are...that are donating to City facilities presently and into the future to avoid those fees, because they're making future contributions to the City. That's why (both talking) Bailey: Cash contributions or infrastructure (both talking) Hayek: No, and that...that would have to be worked out, but... Bailey: Right, and that's what I want to see worked out before. Hayek: And I don't have a problem with that, but...but the notion of...of entering into 15 separate agreements with 15 separate entities that have different abilities to pay and different, uh, membership levels and all the other factors that...that get into it, that's where I think we could have real problems, when we're trying to individually negotiate with given groups, uh, based on their ability to pay, against the backdrop of needing to raise `x' number of dollars through fees to support budgets. Bailey: But I don't think that there have been enough discussions with these groups. From what I'm hearing, and the misunderstanding, and the body language that I'm seeing in the back row, I don't think that there's been enough discussions This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 26 with these groups to...to understand, and...and maybe you know there are three or four unusual situations in this list, that we want to contribute infrastructure rather than cash, and how do we feel about that? Do we want infrastructure or do we need the cash, I mean, because infrastructure doesn't pay for our...our maintenance, and so I... if nothing else, I think we should consider deferring this resolution until some more conversations can happen, um, and...and get some clarity. I don't understand, um, I have a sense of what some of these costs. I don't have a sense of what all of these cost. Maybe entering into 15 agreements is challenging. Maybe it can be...maybe it can be a generalized approach that looks like this. I don't know, but I don't think that there's been enough...I know that the Commission has worked on it a long time and I know that staff has, but I'm concerned that these affiliates groups don't fully understand what they're getting themselves into, and I don't want to leave a bad taste in their mouths so they go away and aren't making contributions to the City, and...and we lose out on that. Or, they make the minimum contributions to cover their, what would potentially be their annual fee. I want to continue good relationships with these groups. Moran: And I'm happy to do that, that's not a...that's not a question for me, but a fee is still a fee, and they're going to be objectionable to that regardless. Bailey: I agree, I agree. Moran: That's the whole issue is that they... as an affiliate group they haven't had to pay, so that whole concept is what is probably more upsetting than anything else. Bailey: Well so then maybe you can answer the question. If they light the third field, at a cost of, they say 50, let's say 45, does that cover their annual, or are we expecting cash? Moran: No, that would cover their annual. The way it was set up, and the way that the Commission understood it is if they did a contribution to that, like I think last night Project GREEN came up and Project GREEN's done many things that are not cash contributions. They're all physical contributions. Then that counts for...for their credit if you will. Bailey: I'm...I'm just really concerned that there's not a complete understanding of this, from affiliate groups, maybe we don't want 15 agreements, but I do want some better understanding. I know that we can't make everybody happy, but I do want to make sure that everybody's clear of what they're getting themselves into. And, if... if you feel that that's been accomplished...I still am a little uncomfortable with it I guess (laughter) Moran: That's fine, that's your prerogative. We can do whatever you want. (laughter) Helling: Mike, just one question for clarification. When you say that covers their annual, do you mean for that year? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 27 Moran: Yes. Helling: Yes, for that one year? Moran: Right. Bailey: And... Mims: And that's what I have a concern with. I think...and let me just step back, I mean, our family's been involved with a number of these affiliate groups for many, many years. We had two girls go through girls' softball, and two boys go through boys' baseball and Babe Ruth, and they all did Kickers when they were little and...so we've been, you know, it's been a while ago, but we at the time were really involved and helped coach and supported and....and I really, really appreciate the time and effort, um, that the people back then, and still, involved in these organizations put into...maintenance and coaching and spending the time with the kids, and it's just an incredible benefit, you know, in our community. I also understand when things have worked a certain way for 10 or 15, or 50 years, um, and you weren't paying anything and all of a sudden you're being asked to, that is a big, big adjustment for people. However, I do think we need to make that change. Um, I think from the City's perspective, with our budget issues, uh, we do have to make some changes. I...I like the compromise that has been made here in terms of charging the affiliate groups only 10% of the rental cost and the opportunity to waive that if they contribute more than that. I am concerned about...uh, the issue of the big kinds of purchases or improvements that they might do, um, you know, if they do a huge project, you know, I think they need and we need as a city a better understanding what that really constitutes for them in terms of, uh, is that...can they do a big project and get credit for two or three or four or five years worth of fees. If they can't, it certainly is a disincentive to them, um, in terms of doing some of those things, in trying to leave it to the City to do. Um... Bailey: And do we have concerns about big projects though, are there big projects that occur that leave more maintenance to us? That's another question that I think... Mims: Well, which I would assume, you know, Parks and Rec has control over that now since they are our facilities and they can make that determination, whether they would, you know, allow a project, lighting or whatever, to go through. Um, I think I'm in line with Matt on the idea that I'm not sure we want 15 memorandums of understanding here in trying...and I agree that we don't want to try and go back and determine what everybody has given, but I think looking a little more detail than maybe what is in this resolution, um, would make me more comfortable, um, in terms of going forward. I...I like, uh, Regenia's idea of, you know, some things that benefit both of us. If scheduling is giving you a problem because affiliate groups aren't giving you their schedules until too late, well, let's This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 28 use some of that to negotiate and to say hey, you know, we have to have these earlier, or we're going to be opening up these times for the public, I, you know, we need to...we need to do some compromising on that, I think. Dickens: What does the average, I think you gave it to us, what the average group is going to have to pay. Moran: It ranged between $1,500 and $2,800. Bailey: And will they pay as, the question came up, practices, games, or is it, I mean, what's that based upon? Moran: Based on facility usage. So whenever they use it, yeah. Bailey: So practices and games, okay. Moran: And if... if you do elect to defer, like Bill said, this is a busy time for them and I'm not going to go talk to them until after the season's over. Somebody'd mentioned June or July, and if that's the case, I'm going to wait till this is over because I can't do that to them in the middle of the summer, their season. Hayek: Aren't you going to though, I mean, isn't there always a season, unless we're in the dead of winter? (several talking) Well, we don't have hockey... Bailey: I think that's when square dance, isn't there a dance group? Hayek: Well, it sounds like there's enough of a question mark on this that maybe deferral is in order, uh, so we can... Bailey: I think if we're going to defer we need some clear direction to staff though. Helling: That was...that was my concern, that I didn't feel like we had real clear direction on what you're looking for, and...and your charge to the Commission, you know, that's important. Um, I think also just in listening to the discussion, I think two kinds of things. One is the...the agreement, whether it's one or several or 15 or whatever, in terms of the fees, some of the other things like the issues with, uh...um, scheduling and that would be I think more policies that would be adopted that would apply, and wouldn't...wouldn't be included in any of those agreements. So there's really two things I think we're looking at here. Moran: And a lot of the memorandums of understanding would be similar, so it wouldn't be 15 totally separate ones, because the people that use outside facilities are pretty much going to have the same as people that use inside facilities, so it'll really be sort of a boiler plate thing, and then it'll be plugged in specially, depending on the group. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 29 Dickens: There's still sponsorships done, I know with girls' softball (several talking) sponsor and (both talking) Moran: ...control that. They, the volunteer groups do that themselves. Dickens: That's a way of, you know, raising sponsorships could be a possibility. I know we sponsored teams many years after my kids played. I did play for Gabe many thousands of years ago by the way, um...(unable to hear person away from mic) so...but uh, no, I understand. It may...it may change the way some of these have to do their sponsorships, that they may have to go out and hit the community up again. Hayek: All right. Bailey: I don't think there's consensus on direction (mumbled) Hayek: And I think this is a big enough deal, uh, and...and goes to the very important relationships that the City has with these long-standing contributors to the community, that we want to do this right. It may still ruffle feathers to, uh, to enact any fee of any kind, but perhaps the...the clarity isn't quite there, uh, and perhaps sort of the illustrative examples of how this would roll out and...and what they can expect, either haven't been generated yet or haven't been heard or understood or comprehended. I...I don't know. Bailey: Well, and I think the one message we can send to these groups is there will be fees. That that's an expectation of this group, um, and the details, I guess, and I think generally you've worked those out. Um, but I think there needs to be further discussion with these groups. Helling: If I could suggest, um, there was a lot of discussion by the Commission if you read the minutes, um, and it may be that in order to make sure that your direction to the Commission is clear would be to have a joint meeting with the Parks and Rec Commission to talk about this issue, and make sure that they're comfortable and that they know (mumbled) some idea in the direction you'd like them to proceed. Hayek: (mumbled) sounds pretty good. Dickens: I'm okay with it. Wilburn: I would again just ask the Council if you are, if you have it in your mind, uh, in follow up if you're talking with any of the groups, that if you're moving towards no fees then there's a direct budgetary impact on that, and you're going to have to remember that at budget time next January. You're going to have to address that. Wright: I'm not hearing no fees. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 30 Bailey: I didn't hear anybody say no fees. Wilburn: But Mike had, and some of the speakers, are already referred to the concept of fees if they're footing the work and so, um, that's just a request to keep that in mind. And what's...what will evolve. Hayek: Okay, Mr. Graf, if you need to address us come up here and... and please be brief. Graf: Could I ask that the affiliates group be allowed to this meeting? Bailey: Well, that has been my concern, is that affiliate groups, um, and I know that the Commission and the staff have done a great job in reaching out, but for whatever reason it seems like there's been, um, not...not incredible participation or feedback or dialog. Maybe these groups are fine with it and I'm just mis...misinterpreting the silence as, I mean, maybe it's assent and that's fine. Moran: In most the cases that's true. Bailey: Okay. Moran: All the people that use our indoor facilities, uh, 10% to them is a dollar and a half every time they use it, so it was something that they just absorbed, uh, but the ones that are the big users, which are the outdoor users, those are the ones that are greatly affected, and we heard from all of them. Hayek: One more comment and then we need to wrap this up. Graf: We attended one meeting, um, with Kickers and I, softball or baseball and softball were at, and we got to speak for 10 or 15 minutes, but. we had no back and forth discussion. Hayek: Thanks. All right, well, why don't we entertain a motion to defer. Bailey: I move that we defer this. Do we have a... Hayek: Do we need to withdraw the pending motion or... Karr: Well, we've got to...you've got, uh, on the floor. Certainly any deferral will offset that, so is it indefinite deferral, no date specific? Bailey: Until after Council has had a joint meeting with, uh, Parks and Rec, and we'll do that as, oh gosh. We just added something, as soon as we can get that on our schedule. Champion: I second that motion. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of April 27, 2010. Page 31 Hayek: Okay, moved by Bailey, seconded by Champion to defer indefinitely, at least until after a joint meeting. Further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. Motion carries 6-1, Wilburn in the negative. Champion: Maybe we can do the joint meeting, um, before a work session. Or before a (mumbled) even. Hayek: Well, we'll get that scheduled, and we'll be in communication with the Commission, uh, to...to figure that out. Helling: Typically we've scheduled those part of a work session, if it works for the Commission. Hayek: Right. Okay. That's it for item 15. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 32 ITEM 17. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE IOWA CITY MERCER PARK AQUATIC CENTER POOL FILTER REPLACEMENT PROJECT. Hayek: Uh, the estimated construction cost is $250,000 and the project will be funded with general obligation bond proceeds. Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution. Dickens: Second. Hayek: Moved by Wilburn, seconded by Dickens. Discussion? Roll call, please. Item passes 7-0. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 33 ITEM 19. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ROCHESTER AVENUE BRIDGE OVER RALSTON CREEK BRM-3715(650)-8N-52. Hayek: For the public's information, uh, this agreement is for the Iowa DOT/City Highway Bridge program and allows for reimbursement of a maximum 80% of eligible costs or a million dollars, whichever is less. Bailey: Move the resolution. Champion: Second. Hayek: Moved by Bailey, seconded by Champion. Discussion? Roll call, please. Item passes 7-0. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of April 27, 2010. Page 34 ITEM 22. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF 2010 WATER MAIN DIRECTIONAL BORING PROJECT. Hayek: The engineer's estimate for this project was $120,540. Public Works recommends awarding it to Gaylord Construction of Fort Madison, Iowa, who came in at $65,660. Champion: It sounds boring! (laughter) Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution. Mims: Second. Hayek: Moved by Wilburn, seconded by Mims. Discussion? Roll call, please. Item passes 7-0. Miss Champion, keep your day job! (laughter) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 35 ITEM 23. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF 2010 SANITARY SEWER REHABILIATION PROJECT. Hayek: Engineer's estimate on this was $177,000. Public Works, uh, recommends awarding the contract to Municipal Pipe Tool Company of Hudson, Iowa, who came in at $102,000 and some change. Wright: Gotta love these low bids! Champion: We saved a lot of money! Mims: Move the resolution. Dickens: Second. Hayek: Moved by Mims, seconded by Dickens. Discussion? Bailey: Is it just that people are hungry? Fosse: Yes, the bid climate is very favorable this year. Bailey: Very, that's an understatement! Fosse: We're getting a lot of bids, and they're coming in low. Bailey: Yeah! Great! Wright: We can do twice as many projects at this point (laughter) Champion: No! Hayek: Roll call, please. Item passes 7-0. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 36 ITEM 26. CONSIDER A MOTION APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF A STUDENT LIAISON AND ALTERNATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF IOWA GOVERNMENT (UISG) TO THE CITY COUNCIL MAY 1, 2010 UNTIL MAY 1, 2011. Shipley: Hello, I'm Jeff Shipley. I was the, served as the liaison from May 2009 up to this meeting, uh, just wanted to very...thank you for the opportunity. And these are just some few parting words for you (mumbled) Elliott. Okay, again, thank you. I was very pleased to serve with you as the liaison. It was a privilege and a pleasure to contribute with you all. I certainly learned a lot and enjoyed myself. Um, you know, I...I had a fun time. I found a lot of humor, you know, in UISG appointing perhaps the most anti-government person on campus to the position, um, I was lucky to make it into Iowa City history, um, after being soundly defeated by Terry Dickens and Susan Mims, I found out that was perhaps the largest landslide defeat in history (laughter) so I did have a good time with it and I just wanted to take this time to reflect on some of the more memorable moments. Uh, first was a meeting back in January, uh, when it was explained that the City is...is abandoning or lessening its pay-as-you-go financing policy for...for City projects. Um, and then the City had to kind of shuffle projects around, as not overload too much debt in any particular year, and just being swamped with that and having to pay exorbitant interest is...is very expensive and frankly irresponsible, uh, you know, even individuals know to avoid credit card debt and not to...when you load up with too much debt there's lots of problems and certainly there's no shortage of things that can go wrong, uh, certainly savings and capital accumulation is...is necessary for any sort of economic growth, um, and I guess a quick example of the City kind of pursuing, or where they could pursue, um, more of a cautious or frugal fiscal policy is, uh, the City's pursuing a new commercial parking structure, uh, planning to build it up on Linn Street, uh, where it's going to be exactly what they had downtown, a big parking structure for a lot of people to park, and they have some commercial real estate, but if you even drive up the street there's existing empty commercial real estate right next door. Um, so hopefully the project goes well, hopefully the society wants it, but you know, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. I guess the second thing, uh, I really learned was I guess how there's always undesirable consequences from alcohol and drug policy. A big moment that stuck out in my mind is when I was serving on the partnership for alcohol safety commission, and Lynn Walding, uh, the former chief bureaucrat of the Iowa Alcohol Beverage Division, um, essentially explained, and I was very shocked, or not shocked but surprised and interested, um, when you had the top bureaucrat in the state lining out a lot of the unintended consequences and negative effects of having a 21-only prohibitive policy, uh, things like having the binge drinking culture. A lot of students coming out with criminal records, uh, a forbidden fruit effect, getting young people into binge drinking by thinking it's like the cool thing to do. Um, of course he stopped This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of April 27, 2010. Page 37 short of recommending that this policy was useless, but it's still a frank admission that there's a lot that can go wrong from even the most well intentioned policy. So essentially the lesson I learned there is not only will there be unintended and undesirable consequences from nearly all of the government efforts to modify and alter human behavior, um, but that government supposedly exists to protect from each other, um, but when government begins to try and protect us from ourselves, it is heading down a very unwise and foolhardy path. Um, finally, I'm very frank; I'm pessimistic about the 21S` century which has been essentially marked by war, violence, uh, torture and financial collapse, but I think of individuals, society, community leaders such as yourselves and governments can really rally around individual liberties and notions such as privacy, uh, personal responsibility, uh, savings, uh, you know, we really could have a bright future and again, uh, I do wish the absolute best for the Iowa City community. It was a, you know, I'll be sad to leave, but I really enjoyed talking to you all, and having the opportunity to voice my input. Um, so yeah, I would like to introduce Elliott Higgins, uh, he will be coming up to speak to you. I think you have to vote and approve him. Uh, he's a very capable, young man, or individual, he's been involved with a lot; he knows a lot of things; so uh, I encourage you to listen to him, and I'll let him speak. Thank you very much. Higgins: How you guys doing? Uh, thanks, Jeff. I want to let you know I'm not quite as anti-government as my (laughter) you have nothing to worry about. Um, but thank you, uh, for the opportunity, and hopefully you will, uh, approve my appointment, but I'll just start by introducing myself. My name's Elliott Higgins. I'm a sophomore, political science and anthropology student. Um, I've been involved with the University of Iowa Student Government for two years now, and I was lucky enough to get this appointment, um, last night, uh, I'm from Ottumwa, Iowa, and I was going to go down today to see Barack Obama, but I thought I'd reprioritize a little bit and come to the meeting tonight. Um, but uh, I know I've got some big shoes to fill and I'm ready for the challenge. Uh, I'm eager to contribute and collaborate with the City of Iowa City, and the City...the City Council. Um, I'd like to bring a strong student perspective to the table, and I'd like to, uh, work with the City on just a few goals here. Um, I'd like to work to obtain a permanent advertising space downtown for the University of Iowa Student Government, and student organizations. Um, I'd like to encourage the City to pursue a responsible agenda with regard to combating alcohol consumption, and I want to ensure a transparent and effective communication between the Council and the students. And, uh, I just want to thank you and I look forward to, uh, building a stronger relationship between...between the City and the University of Iowa Student Government. So thank you. Hayek: Thanks, and welcome, Elliott. We need to do two things. First we need to...entertain a motion on your future here, and then we've got a certificate here for Jeff that we want to read. Why don't we take the motion up first. Champion: I move we accept, uh, Elliott Higgaman? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 38 Hayek: Higgins. Champion: Higgins! (laughter) Mims: Second. Hayek: Moved by Champion, seconded by Mims. Discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. Motion carries unanimously. Welcome, Elliott! And Jeff, I'm going to read a...a certificate that we've got, uh, for you from the City Council. It says the City Council of Iowa City presents this certificate of appreciation to Jeff Shipley for his dedicated service as the University of Iowa Student Government Student Liaison to the City Council of Iowa City, to better identify issues of common concern to the students and to the City, and for his commitment to improved communication between UISG and the City for the 2009-2010 academic year. Presented on this 27th day of April, 2010. Thank you! (applause) Now on a personal note, Jeff, thanks for your service. You've dutifully attended the meetings, you've been a great contributor to the conversation we've held over the last, uh, year or so, and um, and I know you'll give some parting advice to...to your successor, and we look forward to working with him, too. So (unable to hear person away from mic) Champion: We appreciate the fact that you didn't always agree with us. You may advise Elliott that he should not do that! (laughter) Wright: Once in a while is okay! (laughter) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 39 ITEM 28. COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS. Applicants MUST reside in Iowa City and be 18 years of age unless specific qualifications are stated. Hayek: Last night the Council at its work session, uh, elected or indicated a desire to reappoint Wally Plahutnik and Michelle Payne to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Bailey: So moved. Wilburn: Second. Hayek: Moved by Bailey, seconded by Wilburn. Mims: I would just like to comment, Mayor, um, I will not be supporting the motion and it has, as I indicated last night at the work session, this has nothing to do with the individuals involved. It's a...it's a philosophical perspective that these are five- year terms and we have had, in this particular case, a number of very qualified applicants to fill these terms. One of `em was just an unexpired, and she's going back on so she hasn't been on very long, but the other individual has been on a full term, and my feeling is that with the length of these terms and having qualified individuals who want to serve, uh, we need to give the opportunity for more people to be involved. I understand complexity of this commission and you know the time to get up to speed, but I really think it's important to give people an opportunity to serve, particularly when we have qualified applicants. So I will not be supporting the motion. Hayek: I will support it. I...I hear what you're saying. I...I think with the Planning and Zoning Commission the...the complexity of that area of...of the law, frankly, the City planning is such that, um, it does take quite a while to figure out the system, and beyond that our practice has been to generally support people who are doing a good job, uh, for at least a second term. It's not hard and fast, but that's particularly our policy, um, so that's where I come down on this. Bailey: And we do invest in their education, particularly in Planning and Zoning, new Commissioners get the opportunity to attend a conference so they can get up to speed, and I think that that's something...we take that particular commission very seriously, and it is very complex. So I think reappointment in this case is...is warranted. Champion: It's not only complex, it's a tremendous amount of work. Bailey: Right. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 40 Champion: They put in a tremendous amount of...of time and...and energy and probably much more than we do. Much more time (mumbled) Hayek: Okay, uh, all those in favor of the appointments say aye. Opposed say nay. Motion carries 6-l; Mims in the negative. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 41 ITEM 30. CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION. Hayek: We'll start with you, Mr. Dickens. Dickens: I'd just like to thank Jeff, uh, for serving, even though it was only a few months that I've been around you, we did have kind of an interesting call. I thought you ran a great race and uh, I still see Dan Tallon comes in on a regular basis. In fact, I saw him today, that I appreciate the time and effort that you guys put in. Bailey: Thanks, Jeff, I wish you all of the success in your future endeavors, which I'm sure we will be hearing about, without question! I'd like to also note that this Saturday that the Farmers Market begins. It's hard to believe that it's May lst, but it is, and so the Farmers Market begins on Saturday, and some important changes this year. Wednesday's markets will start at 5:00, and I think that...I really thank the Parks and Rec Commission for being responsive to the community survey about starting that particular market earlier. So I'm really looking forward to Farmers Market! It must be spring! Wilburn: Good luck, Jeff! Um, if this is correct, the Iowa City Community School District's School Board named Steve Murley as the, uh, from Wausau, Wisconsin, school district as the next superintendent to succeed, um, Lane Plugge. So look forward to working with him and good luck. Champion: Good choice! Wright: I have, uh, well wishes for Jeff, uh, in addition to all the others, and we might as well just keep going right down the line. It has been a pleasure to serve with you, uh, you've actually set a pretty high bar for Elliott to follow. Champion: I wish you the best. I think you've been a lot of fun. Thanks! Mims: Good luck, Jeff. It was fun to run the campaign against you in the fall (mumbled) um, and other than that (mumbled) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010. Page 42 ITEM 31. REPORT ON ITEMS FROM CITY STAFF. a) City Manager. Hayek: City Manager? Helling: I have nothing. Hayek: Assistant? Fosse: I do have something. You mentioned the downtown alleys earlier tonight. I wanted to point out that we started steamcleaning those last night and we'll finish up tonight. So you'll want to get out tomorrow and look at those while they're still spectacular. (laughter) And, once (several talking) once they're finished with that, then they'll do the once a year steamcleaning of the ped mall. That's it. (several talking) Hayek: City Attorney? (several talking) Entertain a motion to adjourn. Wilburn: Move to adjourn. Hayek: Moved by Wilburn, seconded by... Wright: Second. Hayek: ...Wright! All those in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. We are adjourned. (bangs gavel) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of Apri127, 2010.