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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-05-03 TranscriptionsPage 1 ITEM NO.2 DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC INPUT IOWA CITY COMMUNITY SCHOOL REDISTRICTING PLAN. Hayek: Welcome everyone! Um, just as an initial matter, um, Council Member, uh, Ross Wilburn will not be participating in this evening's meeting and Council Member Terry Dickens, uh, has another obligation. He will be here by 8:00 (mumbled) case you're wondering why he's not here now. He will be here by...by 8:00. Um, item no. 2 is discussing...discussion and public input regarding the Iowa City Community School District redistricting plan. Um, late last week the, uh, Members of the Council sitting here, uh, decided to schedule a meeting for this evening, uh, so that we could examine the status, uh, of the School District's redistricting process, uh, hear from City staff who have been involved in that process thus far, uh, solicit input from the community, and then discuss as an elected body, um, whether to, uh, communicate anything to the School District concerning, uh, this body's position to the extent there is one, and we're going to have a discussion about that later. Um, so I'm...I'm pleased to see, uh, so many people from the public here on short notice. Uh, I appreciate the attendance of our School District...School Board Members and...and staff, um, the way we're going to proceed tonight, um, is as follows. Um, initially we will hear from City staff who will provide a report to the Council, uh, about their involvement to date, um, then we're going to open up the discussion, uh, for input from the community to the extent there are comments people wish to make to the City Council. Um, in regards to that, uh, some of you may not have been to a City Council meeting before. The way we operate is that we ask you to, uh, if you're able, grab a little sticker in...in the back, uh, if you want to speak, uh, that's the easiest way and the most efficient way to do it. If you don't want to do that, you don't have to, but either way when you get to the podium, uh, you...you need to either sign in there or place your sticker on the book and then please give us your name and the reason is that we have to keep minutes and we like to keep track of...of who spoke and when. Um, and the way we'll operate is that, uh, we'll just form a queue down the aisle, um, for those wishing to speak when...when that time comes, and we're going to ask everyone to limit their comments to three minutes or less, uh, that's a tighter time constraint, but it's the only way to get through a large number of comments to the extent we...we get that, and we'll proceed for a while, uh, I don't anticipate, uh, allowing for public comments beyond 9:00, uh, because this was a hastily called meeting and the Council will need to discuss...have some time to discuss, uh, what it wants to do, um, following those comments. So, um, I would also encourage you to...when you get up to the podium, try not to repeat what has been said by other people. It's always best for us to hear new things so that we can get the full breadth of the opinions and perspectives, uh, in the community. That will help us greatly. So, and then we'll...we'll follow that with...with Council discussion. So, initially I would like Jeff Davidson, uh, the Community Planning Director to...to address the Council, uh, the Planning Department has...has spearheaded the City's involvement in...in the process thus far. Mr. Davidson. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 2 Davidson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, and Members of the City Council. Uh, we appreciate the opportunity to be here this evening, and give a report on the redistricting, uh, committee activities, uh, for which we have been participating. We very much appreciate the School District in extending the offer for us to participate, uh, on the committee. They have a very difficult decision, and we appreciate the opportunity to be a part of all the committee meetings. When, uh, Dale received the invitation, he and I talked extensively about who the appropriate person would be to...to sit on the committee. Uh, we did agree that someone from the Planning staff would be, uh, the appropriate person. We needed somebody who had knowledge of our Iowa City neighborhoods, we have an extensive neighborhood, uh, association as you know, as well as someone who was knowledgeable about the future growth patterns of Iowa City, um, Karen Howard, Associate Planner Karen Howard from your Planning Division was able to also commit to the meeting schedule. Uh, it was also great that Karen had access to, uh, the traffic section of the Planning Department as well as the Housing section of the Planning Department, in addition to the knowledge she has herself, uh, extensive knowledge about future growth patterns in the city and the district planning process that we had used, uh, for our comprehensive planning, uh, efforts. Uh, what we hope to do tonight, Karen is going to make a brief presentation of the committee's activities. Uh, we want to make sure that between myself and Karen you have all of your questions, uh, answered, uh, so that you can following the public comment period, uh, make a decision as to whether or not you wish to formally provide input to the, uh, School Board for the very difficult decision that they have ahead of them. So, with no, uh, further due, uh, Karen Howard, Associate Planner from the Urban Planning Division. Hayek: Thank you, Jeff. Howard: Hi, I'm Karen Howard, um, thank you for, um, holding a meeting tonight, uh, I want to, uh, second what Jeff said about, um, being appreciative to be, honored to be on the committee, um, it was a big task and I think all the committee members took it very seriously. I was really impressed with, um, the people that were on the committee, how hard everybody worked, um, and also uh, the School Board, how difficult a decision it is that they have to make. Um, with that said, I want to just run through a little bit about what, how this whole process laid forth for the committee and the Board. The Board gave a charge, um, and formed a committee to consider, uh, redistricting some areas and they also hired a consulting firm to, um, generate some enrollment projections for the next five years in the school district. The committee, um, held eight committee meetings. That was expanded from the original, I believe five that were originally scheduled, um, but as the committee worked we realized what a big task it was, and we asked for more time to consider all the ramifications of the enrollment projections and getting our heads around, uh, all the difficult issues that...that the School District faces. Uh, they also took a telephone survey of parents, an on-line survey for the community, and uh, they held several public forums, which were very well attended, um, and uh, again, I was impressed by the turnout at those public forums, both at Parkview This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 3 Church and downtown Iowa City, um, and also there was a number of schools. There was also a forum at Grant Wood Elementary School and I know that PTAs were holding meetings and people were very engaged in this process, um, which represented to me that this is just a really important issue. Um, the committee was asked to consider four boundary criteria, and this is how we were to judge, um, the scenarios that were brought forth to us from the consultant. The committee, I want to make clear, didn't create the scenarios...that we were asked to respond to scenarios that were created by the consultant, based on their enrollment projections, and these four, uh, boundary criteria that the Board, uh, set forth. Uh, number one was fiscal considerations, uh, the Board wanted to make sure that the boundaries are planned to maximize their district resources, in a fiscally responsible manner, uh, remain revenue neutral to the extent possible, to accommodate the increases in enrollment. Uh, the projected enrollment and building utilization, the boundary should anticipate the projected enrollment and the capacity of the buildings that we have, um, and make sure that we use our buildings efficiently, um, in an attempt to maximize student populations at each school, make sure that we use all the space that we have, so shifting both, you know, looking at both elementary, junior high, and high school enrollments and making sure we're utilizing the buildings, um, efficiently, that we have now, before we make decisions to...to add on to buildings or build new buildings. Uh, neighborhood schools and neighborhoods intact, this criteria was for where possible a neighborhood should not be split between two schools and they had a definition of a neighborhood being, um, something that, uh, followed natural boundaries, um, was considered a fairly...a small element of planning. Uh, and then demographic considerations, and this is one that, um, I think we all struggled with, was to minimize overloading any one or a few schools with students that may require significant resources. And the measure that the School District used was, um, the percentage of free and reduced lunch, uh, numbers at each school. The charge to the committee was to, uh, send to the Board two or three redistricting scenarios for them to consider. Um, develop recommendations for managing the high school enrollment that addressed both short-term and long- term projections, and use the four criteria that they established, and that they cautioned that it would...would impact all grade levels. I think when...when we went into this, a lot of people thought it was just...was a high school boundary change, shift, but it was pretty clear that there was a lot of capacity issues at the elementary school level, and a lot of issues, um, at junior high and high school. And then finally they asked the committee to make sure that we thought globally and consider the whole community, and the whole district, over our self interests. And I...I hope these show up well enough. They're not real high-quality images here, um...but one thing I wanted to point out is that, um, I think there's this perception that...we are a growing district, and um, that is something that's positive, um, for the School District, but also presents some challenges, and I think, uh, what illustrates here is that we're not...we're growing in different parts of the community. Um, in the north corridor there's been more growth in the recent last ten years...the growth has been faster, but we're still growing in all parts of the district, not in just one area or...or another. The...the committee This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 4 forwarded, um, in the end after much...much debate and all the public forums and see, uh, a number of different scenarios, um, we really struggled with the elementary school boundary scenarios in trying to balance demographics. And, um, realized that is was a difficult problem to solve in five years, that, um, it was a struggle to figure out ways to...when...when we were thinking about elementary schools in particular as being neighborhood schools, that shifting pockets of poverty around, uh, and busing kids around, maybe was a difficult decision to make and in the end a lot of public input came in that we...was more important to keep our neighborhoods intact, um, so I think a lot of the committee members struggled with what was the best solution for the elementary schools, but this was the scenario that was forwarded to the Board. This is the same scenario in all four D, E, and F. So the elementary school boundaries are...are the same in all those scenarios. Uh, for the junior high, also the scenarios are exactly the same. All four...all number four scenarios, um, the...the committee forwarded just one scenario for junior high boundaries. Uh, for the high school scenarios, this is where four, there was two...the Board wanted one...scenario with three high schools, and one scenario with two high schools. Um, the committee did not vote...for, or two high schools versus three high schools against each other. Uh, what we were asked to vote on was we were given, uh, two different three-high-school scenarios, and we were asked which three high school scenario was better than the other one, which would we recommend over the other one, 4.D. was the scenario that was forwarded to the Board. And, uh, we did the same thing for two-high-school scenarios, uh, we voted, uh, and 4.F. received the, uh, 66% of the committee vote as being the preferable two-high- school scenario. Um...with these two high school scenarios, the difference is basically, um, what this scenario...they're calling it athree-high-school scenario, uh, but what it is really is...is two high schools and aninth-grade center. So in the fifth year, aninth-grade center would be proposed to be built, uh, and then after that, um, as enrollment allows it could be extended into a third high school. And I think that's where some confusion, I think with the public, comes about as what the cost difference is between atwo-high-school and athree-high-school versus two-high-school and aninth-grade center. With the...4.F., the two high schools basically shifts Wickham Elementary School, uh, area and Lincoln Elementary School area to City High, and the Twain area to West, and what that shows is that, um, it really, uh, utilizes the space at both high schools. I think the reason, now I can't...I can't speak for all the committee, but I think what I heard from many of the committee members was the reason they voted for 4.F. over the other two high school scenario was that it...that it balanced the free and reduced lunch. It balanced the enrollment better between the two high schools, um, and it... it seemed to utilize the space the best of the... of the other high school scenarios. With regard to the cost, we were asked to sort of, uh, judge also, um, fiscal responsibility and financial considerations. Um, just a comparison of the two...two different high school scenarios, 4.F., with two high schools serving 4,000 students with additions. This would be permanent additions to City and West, um, would cause increase in operating budget, estimated by the School District of $977,000 per year, operating budget. With 4.D., and I've extrapolated This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 5 this to a...to three high schools with complete four-year high schools serving 4,000 students, so you can see, uh, an apples to apples comparison here. Um, the difference there would be $1.74 million to operate three high schools serving 4,000 students. With regard to the enrollment, um, the consultant used the mid- range projection, uh, average yearly increase in high school enrollment over the next five years is about 108 students per year, as the consultants estimated. There's a concern that with...with the three-high-school scenario it shows aninth- grade center, but does not illustrate what will happen to the enrollment at West High in years six through ten of the scenario...if a complete four-year school's built, and the committee discussed this and asked the consultant about it at a meeting, and the consultants answered this question for the committee at one of our last meetings, and they did say that West High's enrollment would drop to 1,200 to 1,300 if every year that ninth-grade center was expanded to one more grade. So, ninth-grade center then, 9, 10; 9, 10, 11; 9, 10, 11, 12. And then, uh, the School District... School Board is also, uh, there was a concern that some people would not chose to go to a smaller high school. I know there's a lot of people in North Liberty and we heard at their forum that a lot of people would like a smaller high school, um, but there is a concern that if people see that the resources are different between a large high school and what can be offered at a large high school versus a small high school, some people may still want to go to the larger high school for those offerings. And so there is some...there was some discussion about efforts to promote that smaller high school by making it a magnet school or having it specialized in math and science, or have some other special programming that would make it, uh, more attractive to...to students. Uh, the consultants were asked about this...this kind of effort and at one of the committee meetings, um, they said that this...that has been used in other school districts making certain schools magnet schools, but they also cautioned that it's been more successful at really large districts, where you don't end up skimming off the cream of the crop and then, um, having fewer resources at your other...other schools. I just want to put...put on my planner hat for a minute here and this is...this is my opinion, um, as a member of the committee, and some of the concerns that I've heard, um, and things that I've heard the consultant say, um, and knowing what's happened with building permits in the last five years. 2006, um, was kind of the peak building permits in the whole region, and since then we've...we've gradually dropped considerably and I think last year we only had 200 new houses built in the entire area. So I think...that...since the recession, things have slowed down considerably, gives me pause, um, that enrollment projections are just projections, and we need to be careful about how fast our district is growing. Um, it does seem to be steady, but slow, 2 to 3% has been our typical pattern of growth. And, there is a concern that if, um, a third high school is built, that there'll be pressure to make that ninth-grade center into a four-year high school, um, because people will want their kids to have the same experience that all the other kids have at high school and have it be a comprehensive high school. Um, and what that will do to the high...the other two high schools that we have, um, also there's concern about the demographic imbalance, both at the elementary school level and junior high and the high school This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 6 level. And, with the three-high-school scenario, they're showing a significant difference in free and reduced lunch at City High is much higher than the other two high schools are showing in the scenario. There is a concern that...that the district has, um, a budget crunch right now and with reduced resources for all children at all levels, um, if operating budget remains stagnate and how the School Board will address that if there's pressure, um, to operate additional schools, will that reduce resources at our existing schools, not only at the high school but our elementary school...schools as well. Um, I also would just like to finish. I...I hand... gave you sort of a... a summary pages of the district report that was submitted by the consultant. It's more comprehensive than this. I gave you sort of summary pages. The entire report's about 64 pages long. It is on the School District's web site. I encourage you to look at it in more detail. They also have the maps. There's quite a few more maps than...than what I presented tonight, and also there was a concern expressed about safety and shifting high school boundaries, and traffic safety, and the School Board asked, um, JCCOG to do a traffic analysis, and I have handed you a copy of that report so if you have questions about that I'd be happy to answer them. Any questions? Hayek: Anybody have questions for Karen? Thanks, Karen, I appreciate that! Okay. Um, why don't we open this up for public discussion at this time, uh, I'll remind you that... first of all, if you guys can be careful with the, uh, the sidewalk so to speak to the door, to keep it as open as possible in case people need to come or go for, uh, safety reasons, that would be great. Next, uh, go ahead and form a queue which I see is already occurring, uh, and then as you get to the podium, uh, either put a sticky note with your name on it, or write your name, uh, on the book, and then introduce yourself, and then again, three minutes or less, please. Hemingway: Sure. Um, I'm sorry, I'm hard of hearing, Mayor. Did you say that Mr. Wilburn was not going to be at the meeting tonight for, because of a conflict, or he just didn't come? Hayek: He's not going to be participating in the meeting. Hemingway: Okay, so our 100,000 a year equity director, when we're discussing school equity, isn't at the meeting? Hayek: Well, he's not going to be participating, and...and, uh... Hemingway: Which calls into question what we're paying (both talking) Hayek: Sir...sir...can you hear me? We're going to need to hear your name... Hemingway: Yes! I signed in at 6:30, excuse me. My name is Phil Hemingway. I live at 415 Elmridge Avenue, Iowa City. Um, many in our community think City High is unsafe at any speed. John Lundell's article in the Press-Citizen of Apri1...10...cites safety concerns with scenario 4.F. It appears to many that the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 7 only way to get to City High goes through I-80, and that I-80 is a death trap waiting to take its next victim. School Board Member Mike Cooper spoke at a recent meeting about the Crist Street incident in conjunction with discussions of I- 80, leaving out the fact that this accident occurred on Highway 1, a small detail I know. I argue that I-80 is not the preferred route to get to City High, and if there are concerns...with the future construction on Dubuque Street narrowing down to one lane, I suggest that those who would make, take this route go to bed early so they can get up in time to make it to school. Self-professed safety expert John Lundell said nothing in his article concerning Hills students using the Avenue of the Saints to get to West High at 65 miles an hour. It's obvious it's not a concern to Mr. Lundell that teen drivers from Hills would be driving at high rates of speed to get to West High. Let's not forget that students living in the far north of I-80 might be tempted to use 380 south to get to Melrose to go to West High. They too would be potentially driving at high rates of speed. This doesn't worry Mr. Lundell either! The truth...the true fear is that any student north of I-80 would travel and attend City High. After...after Mr. Lun, or as Mr. Lundell's pessimistic view on parenting in his article, it's a sad day when an elected official tells us not to expect our children to listen to their parents. And I'm afraid that safety is becoming a code word for something else in this discussion. City High is an excellent school, uh, and when my daughter, who was a sophomore going from Southeast, and at the time there were some...some disciplinary, or I should say they were having...there were reports in the paper about fights and things like that at City High, we had safety concerns. But it didn't take, uh, one trimester at City High for those concerns to be laid to rest. Thank you very much. Hayek: Thank you, sir. Clark: Hi, I'm Janet Clark. I live at 1111 Friendly Avenue. I've been an Iowa City resident since 1984 and Iowa City's now the home of my family and children. I would like to limit my comments mostly to my concerns over, um, last Tuesday night's work session by the Board, which I attended, in order to not be redundant. But also as a resident, I am here to request that the City Council supports, um, Iowa City residents in an endeavor to maintain where there is current vibrant health at City High and in our east. side community, and further and most importantly, I am concerned about the health of our entire school district and our entire community. The west and north side included. I believe that our Board was lucky to embark on this whole redistricting process ripe with input, um, from community and teacher sur... surveys with the redistricting committee, uh, which was Board commissioned, and paid consultants, to which...to date we have paid $106,000. Last Tuesday night, uh, I attended the Board's work session and I felt like defying all logic and responsible and appropriate consideration of input and data, it seemed clear to me that the majority of the Board was considering a decision to reject the redistricting committee's endorsement of 4.F., a scenario which I believe best fulfilled the Board's own criteria that it charged the committee to consider. The reasons to me were varied and unclear, but as a whole appeared to me a logical and unsupported by data. It does seem to me, and This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 8 I believe to most, that our community will very likely at some point require a third high school in order to appropriately meet the needs of all of our students. But (mumbled) of the City Council and the members of the community to, um, consider that that time is not now, that time's not yet. Currently there are no enrollment trends to support this, and we have even learned very recently this week that enrollment projections for both high schools and for Southeast and Northwest are down significantly from previous projections. Outside of the fact that there's no adequate money existing for operational costs of a third high school at this point. I felt Tuesday night the Board was using its own consensus of the school of the future to (mumbled) real attention to the issues of balancing enrollment and demographics at our schools, but particularly our two high schools, which undercuts City High and our community at large. A request to the Board Thursday night to utilize scenario 4.F., the scenario that was preferred by the RDC, and which best meets the Board's criteria of fiscal responsibility and utilizing existing buildings, balancing demographics while keeping neighborhoods intact, uh, had been completely tabled in that discussion. This was despite the fact that if you look at the data, and you look at enrollment, 4.F. won't even require the additions to the high schools that initially seemed to be needed. I believe that until a third high school is required, the Board must fulfill its commitment to the community as a whole and espouse for F. until that time. I also believe that the City Council of Iowa City must recognize how crucial this decision that the Board will make is to the well-being of our entire community. So I'm here tonight to request that the City Council communicates very directly with the Board regarding what seems to me to be a clear path to fiscal responsibility and how to best meet the needs of all of our beloved students. Hayek: Thank you. Berg: Hi, my name is Dan Berg, and I live at 2775 Hickory Trail in Iowa City and I'm here to go on...urge the Council to go on record to oppose the addition of the third high school scenario that is being discussed by the School District. It's not the job of the Council to draw lines on a school map to figure out boundaries for a school, but it is the job of the Council to represent the interests of the residents of this city and to intervene when plans are being made that would be detrimental to our schools, to our city, and detrimental to our children. You're all familiar with the process, a big committee working really hard for months, spending a lot of time, getting a tremendous amount of input, working with consultants that were very professional, and have lots of experience. And coming up with a scenario, 4.F., that actually met the criteria that fiscal consideration, building utilization, demographics -all those criteria that were laid out by the Board and read at every meeting of the redistricting committee. They came up with this scenario, and I was pleasantly surprised. I was a bit skeptical at first, but I thought, wow, the process really worked! But unfortunately the Board seems to be favoring a scenario that adds aninth-grade center that is bad on so many levels. I don't know where to start. First, dem... first numbers. Our enrollment of the high school level has been stagnant for now 11 years. Using those actual numbers, no This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 9 one in their right mind would say, gee, our numbers are flat. Let's build a new building. It's fiscally irresponsible. It builds a building that will be underutilized and result in underutilization of... of the existing buildings, and it will decrease the quality of programming at the two high schools that we already have. We have fiscal constraints. The only way you can do this is move teachers and resources from other schools. We don't have extra money! It's no secret that for quite a number of years there are many people have...that have moved from Iowa City to the west side for the schools, and the same is true for people moving into the area. I work at UIHC. I see this all the time. People are directed to the west side because perceived differences in the school. As a result, if we let this process continue, we will have a continued decline in our school. We will have, uh, a stream of people who are leaving for better schools turn into potentially a larger stream, and the results of that will be decreased property values, decreased revenues, decreased city services, decreased quality of life, and what we're looking at is the development of Iowa City as a place where you work, at the University, ACT, the Hospital, but not where you live and raise a family and send your kids to school. That's a pretty grim picture! But it's not set in stone, because final decisions have not been made. There, and it's important that we act now. I'd ask you to seriously listen to all the data that's been given. I'm sure you're all aware of it, and I ask you to act, and I urge you to go on record opposing this third high school scenario. Thank you. Hayek: Thank you. Buatti: Howdy. I'm John Buatti, and, uh, I've lived in Iowa City for 11 years. I live at 2891 Saddle Club Road, and I'm like going to also support 4.F. Um, I would like to reiterate a number of things that Dr. Berg just mentioned as well. I also worked at UIHC. What I want to tell you really is a tale of two cities. Okay? I moved here 11 years ago. I can tell you that I was told you can live anywhere in Iowa City. It really doesn't matter. The schools are all good, and what is creeping in is that you're getting people not thinking both schools are good. Okay? Particularly in light of high schools. This is critical to this city and the community. You should go across the country and go to Gainesville and ask who lives on the east side of town? Okay? And it is clearly what this Council and what the Board will decide is going to influence that, it's going to creep in, and people will start selectively moving to different areas of the community, by not having equality. Equality is good. It is an American value. It is something that should be in every single person's here utmost consideration in terms of developing high schools. If we can't have two outstanding high schools, like we do now, you will create a two-sided community. Economically, educationally, and otherwise. So this is really a very deep-seeded responsibility this Council needs to communicate and I think that no one should even think about tolerating anything but that. Okay? I don't like to come to political meetings. I don't do it. Okay? I'm here and...and now you've got the word. So do what's right! Thank you. Hayek: Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 10 Beasley: Hi, my name is Beth Beasley, and I live at 217 Green Mountain Drive in Iowa City. And, um, I just wanted to come tonight and say to all of you that the redistricting process is an Iowa City issue. What happens with this process will affect all of our communities, and anything the Council can do to raise awareness among its constituents is appreciated and necessary. At the Iowa City Community School District Board meeting on Tuesday, April 27th, our Board of Education did not seem interested in discussing both scenarios presented to them by RSP Consulting and the redistricting committee. I would like to present this discussion of scenario 4.F. the two high school scenario to you and them. First, at the high school level, 4.F. meets all the criteria set by the Board. I would suggest that they consider 4.F. without additions at this time (noise on mic) lack of enrollment, climbing enrollment. Um, and also to let you know that in 1999, City High student population was 1,600. That was before their 16-room classroom addition built in 2004. So, there is actually seemingly more capacity perhaps than what is written down. Second, the junior high scenarios were not adjusted when they did 4.F. and I would like to suggest that we use the space that we have right now at Northwest. I'm suggesting that Wickham, Lincoln, and Twain students come to Northwest for their junior high school time. Then the Lincoln and Wickham students proceed to City High, and the Twain students to West, which is what the high school scenario for 4.F. shows. This would fully utilize the space at Northwest and eliminate the need to add on to North Central, saving the District money. It would also reduce overcrowding at Southeast. I believe that the two changes would better address the first two criteria set by the Board of Education, the fiscal responsibility... fiscal and operational consideration, and the enrollment and capacity consideration. Finally, the scenario 4.F. balances demographics at the high school level which was the final criteria by the Board of Education. As a stakeholder in our community school district, I implore our Board of Education to discuss both scenarios thoroughly and fairly, follow the criteria that they set, and to think global, the community over self, which is a charge that they gave the redistricting committee. Thank you for a chance to speak. Hayek: Thank you. Dilkes: Mr. Mayor, I just want to, I've been thinking about the...the first gentleman who spoke comment about Mr. Wilburn's absence, and I just wanted to clarify that I did talk to Mr. Wilburn late last week about the conflict of interest issue, um, once this meeting was set and although he did not discuss with me how he would like that communicated to you all and to...and to the audience members, I think he would want it communicated that he and I determined that his duty of loyalty, uh, to the School, uh, District in light of the fact that he's an administrator there and his duty of loyalty to the City Council would be in conflict and that it would be best for him not to participate. Hayek: Thanks for clarifying! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 11 ~7 Jiang: Okay, hi, my name is Lan. I live on X242 Ireland Drive. Um, first of all I'd like to appreciate the City Council for holding such meeting to have public inputs and to listen to parents' concerns, and here I'm speaking to address the parents' concerns of the new (mumbled) elementary school which will be open on Kennedy Parkway. My son is a first grader and he will be among all the kids in our neighborhood who will go the New Crossings Elementary after the redistricting, starting 2012. We had a neighborhood meeting yesterday. Many of us parents are very concerned of the high free reduced lunch percentage in the new school, which is 40.6%. That is 10% over the school district average. We feel that it is a very high free reduced lunch percentage to open a new school. At a time of the opening everything will be new. The teachers, the staff, and the kids. Everyone will need attention, need adjustment. It'll be chaos for quite a while, with such a high free reduced lunch percentage and with so many kids requiring significant resources, it'll be very hard for the new school to establish herself in the very beginning, thus, inhibit the new school to grow. We are also very concerned to see the strong correlation between the high free reduced lunch percentage and the lower academic scores. The newspapers see the (mumbled) school scores for 2009. From the scores, we see a pattern that if a school's free reduced lunch percentage is less than district average, which was 29.6%, the school performance is good. The average (mumbled) for such schoo12009 (mumbled) is 85 percentile. But when the school's free reduced lunch percentage more than district average, over 10%, which is the case for (noise on mic) I'm sorry! For the New Crossing School. The school performance would drop significantly and the average percentage...percentile for such school is 16 percentile. Hayek: Take your time; you're doing fine! Jiang: I'm sorry, I'm not used to this! We hence recall all the district's recently opened schools were opened with much lower free reduced lunch percentage. Wickham is 2.2%. Then Allen is 25.3%, and Gardner is 30.3%. In addition, the results of the most recent opening, Gardner Elementary, was a balanced solution for Penn, then Allen and Gardner, and the planning stage the free reduced lunch percentage was discussed and the result is the free reduced lunch percentage among that three schools were balanced. Therefore, when we look at close-by schools we notice that after the redistricting plan, Weber Elementary will have 18.8% free reduced lunch percentage, and the whole elementary we have 28.6%. Compare to Weber, the New Crossings will have over 22% higher than...percentage than the New Crossing School. It doesn't seem very fair for our kids, going to a new school like this, just starting their study. In summary, we'd like to see for the attention by the, from the public, the City Council, and the School, and the Board Members, District School Board Members to balance the free reduced lunch for us, at least among the three neighborhood schools, which is Weber, Horn, and The Crossings. We also like to see the School District is treating the same to all of the (mumbled) schools. Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 12 Hayek: Thank you. Bennett: Good evening, I'm Lee Bennett at uh, 53 Alder Court. Again, thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening and again, uh, Mayor and ladies and gentlemen, thank you for holding this special forum this evening. Uh, and again, I'm going to be speaking about a topic dealing with elementary schools. A lot that's been going on at many of the public forums and many of the public scenarios has been talking about high school situations, but again, this evening I'd like to talk about a school that can't represent itself yet. It has no PTA. It has no way to organize itself because it doesn't exist yet, which is The Crossings, and uh, looking at the goals that are to be set out, in other words, keeping the neighborhood intact, uh, try to balance out free and reduced lunch, and not increase transportation, unfortunately in all the scenarios when you look at The Crossing, and again, it has not had a chance to speak up for itself, sure people that will eventually live in the area where The Crossings has been to the forum, but it's more difficult to become organized when you don't have, you know, a school where you're seeing each other on a daily basis. We're scattered to more different schools, and when you look at each of the scenarios, it again remains in almost all of them, say for one, at over 40%, uh, of free and reduced lunch, which again has been pointed out earlier in data from the State of Iowa, and also reported by the Gazette, at least below the national average in school performance, there's just a direct correlation. The numbers are big enough that it's statistically relevant. And, this, uh, these numbers are kept high actually by breaking some of these rules. Number one, the neighborhoods are not kept intact, uh, currently children that walk to Weber School would be bused to The Crossing, and these are children that are, uh, part of the free and reduced lunch program. And then children that are bused, uh, to Weber, uh, currently could be bused at roughly the same distance to the new school in an area where there is not a very high percentage of free and reduced lunch. These two neighborhoods could be easily switched. They're almost next to one another. Talking about the free and reduced area that's by, uh, Fareway and back behind the Casey's, in that area, which...the area where they walk to Weber would have to be bused to a much further area to The Crossings. So that would also increase transportation. So, again, as...we all are here because we realize that one of the goals of government is to protect and support those that can't protect and support themselves, which is this new school, which will be opening with an exceedingly high free lunch based on any other new schools that have opened in this region. And so I ask that you would seriously consider doing some, a little bit of... even if it takes it micro-suggestions on how to improve that and balance out this area so that we don't have abrand-new school that in three or four years is already a school in need of assistance under the No Child Left Behind program, which would not look good. Thank you for your time, and I appreciate your consideration. Hayek: Thank you, sir. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 13 Klemme: Um, is there a sticker? There aren't any stickers. Hayek: You know what? You can just write your name on there. They're back there. I'd just sign up if I were you. Klemme: Okay. My name is Laurie Klemme and I live at 244 Amhurst Street in Iowa City. I have, uh, lived in Iowa City since 1985. I have raised two kids here who are just graduating, one from City High and one from Tate. Twins. Um, I came tonight because I...I'm sort of, uh, well, I'm recommitting to School District politics after a ten year...break. I took a ten-year break because it was such a bitter experience ten years ago. When I was advocating for third grade students at Lucas Elementary, where the class sizes were grossly uneven between Lucas and other schools in the district. It was apart-time job. It was just horrendous! And 66 families were engaged in that effort, so there were certainly no shortage of people engaging with their children's education. It yielded almost nothing for us. What it did result in is at the end of the year, the ITBS scores showed, they were significantly lower. You can see, I think it's 2000, like 20 points lower than other schools. This is really important because at the end of that year, my daughter who was in her regular class level mathematics, uh, was a full year behind the other kids in the same level class mathematics at Hoover, just one school over, because of class size. These were bright kids, I mean, they started, they were 99 percentile on the ITBS when we started in the Iowa City School District. So...and there have been consequences from this sort of, uh, socio-economic tracking that's gone on. I had to take my kids out to Heritage, uh, the next year to catch up. I drove them out there every day, and they worked for a year and my daughter caught up. That was my experience! So, uh, ten years later I tune back in and I see that, uh, Lucas is, you know, on the Schools in Need of Assistance list. Nothing has changed! And um, the same thing that we were told ten years ago is happening now. We were told that the reason why there was this inequity in class sizes was because they had been anticipating growth on the west side. So that's why on the west side they had classes with, you know, uh, 22 and we had 29. Many with undiagnosed behavior disorders or you know whatever. So, it seems to me it's very parallel, again, we're hearing about this anticipated growth on the west side, though there isn't really data to support it, and what I see, uh, that's coming very soon is a reduction in the, you know, the span, the range of offerings at a school like City. As I understood it, much of the push behind this was trying to bring parity between the high schools so that a kid like my son, who was in AP English, could also be on the newspaper. Well, you can't do that at City High, because if you take AP English it conflicts with newspaper, and that's just how it is, and there are all kinds of classes like that where the kids who take these similar kinds of classes can't take that, because there aren't enough kids there...for that. So, I don't know what will happen to those kinds of offerings. So, you know, it just seems that...that there has been this campaign over the years that I've lived in Iowa City to create an affluent west side and, uh, you know, some social project on the east side. And, um, as somebody who has succeeded from that social project, I think it's...it's, uh, it's not equitable. So, anyway, just uh, felt like I This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 14 needed to come and say that. Thank you for listening. Thank you for having the meeting. Hayek: Thank you. Eisele: My name is Julie Eisele. I live at 5 Woodland Drive N.E. When redistricting discussions began, certain people in our school district were opposed to attending City High for various reasons. According to proclamations at public forums, it was a `jock' school. It was unsafe. It was seen as weakening. This, despite ACT scores that are consistently among the top in the state. We have a world class fine arts program. Sorry, I'm nervous! And, sports programs that speak for themselves. Not to mention standardized test scores that according to a recent report in the Gazette, put our school at number three in eastern Iowa and they were the top scores locally. Now some of these same people are saying that City is a great school, but it's just too far or it's too dangerous to drive there. The argument evolves, but my suspicion is that the cry for boundary changes and the cry for a new school in an isolated part of our school district is partly motivated by fear of diversity and overblown concerns about safety. There are safety concerns at any high school that size, and I am confident that both of our high schools have similar challenges. If this is enforced, and the call for a new high school in an isolated part of our district, one that could potentially draw resources from all of our existing schools, I think it's an issue that all taxpayers need to be aware of, and I hope that the City Council will raise that awareness. Thank you. Hayek: Thank you. Richardson: Good evening. My name is Sarah Richardson. I live at 519 S. Summit Street. I'm a 1980 graduate of West High School, daughter-in-law of the first West High principal, Ed Barker, and a very happy City High parent, mother of a sophomore. And I'm here to talk about how important it is to maintain two strong high schools Iowa City. Iowa City can easily be called the premiere school district in the state. And to maintain that title, we need to maintain two strong, balanced high schools. I applaud the City Council for their efforts to...to, uh, revitalize Towncrest and other parts of the east side, and to bring business and other entities to Iowa City, in the same proactive way that other parts of our community have brought business and, uh, organizations to revitalize their parts of the community in Coralville and North Liberty. But the only way to invite new families to be happy to live in Iowa City, and send their kids to school, as Dr. Buatti and Dr. Berg said, is to make sure that we have vital, healthy schools in Iowa City, and in particular on the east side. So I'm grateful for the City Council to take the time this evening to listen to all we have to say, to recognize the importance of knitting our city together to assure two strong, balanced high schools, with equal opportunity for children at all ends of the spectrum, at City High and West. Thank you. Hayek: Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 15 Lynch: Good evening, excuse me. My name's Chris Lynch. I live at 755 Forest Edge in Coralville. I work in Iowa City. And I have, uh, two kids in the school, one at Wickham, one at uh, North Central. Um, I've been talking on behalf of a number of Wickham parents. Just want to convey, and I'll keep this relatively, you know, relative to Iowa City in these comments. Um, want to talk about what we feel strongly about (mumbled) first is we...we feel real strong about neighborhood schools, those should be local, strong neighborhood schools with (mumbled) assistance, and I think we heard that throughout tonight. We heard it throughout, uh, the redistricting process. That was the input by parents, was one of the priorities by the Board, was one of the `ah-ha' moments as the redistricting committee reviewed their (mumbled) with the Board, that people love their neighborhood schools. We need to maintain our neighborhood schools. That's the first thing we feel strongly about. The second thing we feel strongly about, we do feel strongly about safety. Um, we feel that this needs to be evaluated in the final scenarios. I won't go on at depth here. We could all talk various stats, but um, neighborhood schools meet our needs on safety. Minimize the instance, minimize the traffic, keep the kids close to their school, it meets the needs on safety. Now we are greatly concerned about putting our kids on (mumbled), okay, we feel that's a higher risk due to the speed of the traffic, the semis, all the exciting stuff like windmill veins coming down the road. You know, half houses coming down the road, we just think it's a higher risk. That's all we're saying. Now in evaluation of safety risk, you need to look at likelihood, and you also need to look at the potential (coughing) and I think some of the traffic data shared to date looks at likelihood and that's all good, but we need to look at severity, and we think the risk is too high. I do think as an Iowa City Councilor you should look at the traffic data because some of the scenarios, like 4.D., I think support neighborhood schools, it minimizes traffic. I think some of the scenarios, like 4.F., maximize traffic. If you look at the urban traffic data, the more traffic the more accidents, the more risk to pedestrians, bikers, cars on the road. And, as we increase traffic, we increase risk to the people in Iowa City, and again, 4.F. for taking basically Wickham and people north of 80, we're trying to get them to the east side. So you know irregardless of your route, maybe you take 80, maybe you take First Street, you know, maybe you take Dubuque. Traffic's going to increase on all those, um, we do know the construction's coming, uh, the flood traffic was certainly a challenge. With the construction going on that's going to be a challenge. It's going to increase the traffic pinch points, uh, it's going to be difficult to basically travel north to east. Now the next thing I haven't heard anybody talk Twain tonight, but you know, I work in southeast Iowa City, and I've had the opportunity to go to track meets at both West and City, um, which has been great, by the way! Great job by both the schools. Um, it's...it's very easy for me to get to City. I jump on First, two miles, south, or north sorry! I'm at City very simple. Try cutting across Iowa City at about 3:45 from Twain to West. I don't know, are you going to take 6? I think we saw the traffic data said lots of accidents on 6, lots of lights. How long does it take...to get across 6, and you can go across Benton, you know, there's lots of pinch points there. If you hit This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 16 the U traffic, forget it! Um, so you know, I'd just like to say, hey, on behalf of Twain, I think it's going to be a challenge to get there. I have to do that drive basically from where I work. So all we're asking is a common sense risk assessment on safety. Now on the third high school I'm just going to read straight from the redistricting committee's notes about the benefits of a third high school, uh, least amount of busing; more what's currently considered neighborhood school; feeder system is complete; addresses capacity in general; utilizes City capacity; more opportunities for third high school...we'll have three bands, three football teams, three of everything, more opportunity in the committee, or in the community. Now there's been lots of talk tonight about enrollment... Hayek: You're going to have to wrap up. You're already over. Lynch: Yep. Lots of talk about enrollment, um, I do agree with trigger points. I think that's the way to go. Um, but I would say when you're looking for the kids, they're already in the elementary system. K to three today there's 3,900 kids in K to three. Every four year block from kindergarten to grade 10 is basically over 3,400 kids, so the kids are in the system, and they're coming. Are we going to be ready for `em? Now the good news, I think there's good news... Hayek: You're really going to have (both talking) you're at five minutes at this point, sir. Lynch: Okay, sorry. The good news here, I think every single scenario increased enrollment at City. I think that's a good thing. We talked about programming. 4.D., E., and F. all increase enrollment at City. All three scenarios also improve free and reduced lunch, and that, by saying improved, it reduces it. I think that's a great thing. 4.D. reduces it by 5%. Um...last thing I'll just say, you know, I think that's it. Thank you very much for your time. Hayek: Thank you. Dorman: (mumbled) Hello. I'm Jane Dorman and I live at 1403 Hollywood Boulevard here in Iowa City, and thanks for this opportunity to speak to you. I was actually on the redistricting committee, um, I work at the University, I'm the mother of three children, one...actually two have now graduated from City High. One is at Southeast. I see that there are really two big issues with the redistricting as we looked at it. One was the disparity with the free and reduced lunch issue, especially at the elementary school, and there is a range of 2.2% to 66%, and I just think that's just wrong. Um, and it's a really a result of a...of a long- standing, not-in-my-backyard mentality here, and I trust that the City Council can help address that, and I think the School Board can help address that, but you know, we have to be brave about that. And, you know mostly though I'm here to talk about the high school issue. Um, you know, my concern with the School Board, how it appears that they are leaning, is that it's such an incredible waste of resources and valuable resources, you know, the human resources, the committee members -each of us spent easily more than 50 hours volunteering on this This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 17 committee, um, the consultants, that $106,000, um, the time over six months, and this whole process I feel has become very divisive to our community. The perception appears to be that if you have really loud voices and you have a lot of money in our community, then you can have whatever you want happen. Um, and I just really worry that why does the School Board disregard the work that was done by so many people in this amount of time that was spent. The assumption also, um, the committee was asked are you in favor of two high schools or three high schools, because we were asked to submit a third high school scenario and we questioned did we really need to do that if we felt that wasn't the right thing. Um, and so we took a little, like just like hand vote and 8 of the committee members were in favor of three high schools and all the rest were not in favor of that. Um, we had 3 5 voting committee members. I don't know that everyone was there that night, but still the majority of people said we really think two high schools is the way to go. The assumption is that all kindergartners in our district will eventually become 12`" graders in our district. And I think that that might not be true, because we have a very transient district here. More people, students, residents move in with young children and then they move on and then are replaced by other students and residents with young children, so I wonder if it really is an issue more with our elementary student population. I think three high schools are not needed and I am going to bring up a point that was brought up before, how long before people in North Liberty at that third high school, you know, if it's a 600-person high school, are they really going to be satisfied with not having the same resources with classes and with music programs and with athletics, as the other two existing high schools. I wonder is this something that could be put to a public vote. Um, that's all I have to say! Thanks. Hayek: Thank you. Is there anyone who wishes to speak? Philpot: My name is Alyse Philpot. I live at 1111 Downy Drive in Iowa City and my daughter is a sophomore at City High. She's my only child. Um, I am an advocate for the 4.F. plan for various reasons. I think it's disingenuous to not do this plan because of fears about transportation. There has been studies done that show statistically that that concern really is...is not...is not on the table here. Um, I do have strong concerns about the waste of resources, both those that have been spent in the past on determining the best plan for the city, and those going forward. Um, there...is wasted space right now in the high schools, but beyond that, we're also squandering an opportunity...right now by just continuing to push things into a segregated, socioeconomic situation north of the highway that's wasting human resources, among children whose legacy means that they need to be integrated with other children in this town and for people like me whose daughter needs the opportunity to have integrated classrooms with children who come from a different background than she's come from, and to start to realize that overcoming some of the problems, the poverty, the challenges that other children do is a strengthening thing and can be a shared strength among our children, but to do this we've got to stop segregating our poor geographically. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 18 Ya'll are not the School Board. I realize that you can't decide about something like redistricting directly, but what I would like to ask you to do is to start looking very, very closely at the housing developments that come before your board that offer aloes-income option that starts at $225,000. That's ridiculous. That's not a low-income option, not when families are trying to get by on $10 an hour. I've had times in my life where I was trying to get by on $10 an hour, and $225,000 housing seemed like something a millionaire only could afford. So anyway, I appreciate the chance to speak tonight. I really hadn't prepared a particular statement, but these thoughts are in my mind all the time as a resident of Iowa City, and I just appreciate the chance to speak with you. Thank you. Hayek: Thank you. (Dickens arrived at 8:10 P.M.) Goodfellow: Hello, my name is Bob Goodfellow. I live at 2629 Princeton Road, and you know we've heard some really compelling arguments tonight, for um, for the two strong high schools, you know, and the one...thing that I think I would like to add to this, um, discussion tonight as a member of the boundary committee I do want to make a note of, um, of recognizing the incredibly difficult decision that our Board has been asked to make. Having undergone this process for the last five months, I don't envy them this decision. It was extremely difficult. We heard many, many times no matter what we talked about doing, we found someone who wasn't happy with it. So it's an incredibly difficult, uh, decision that they're trying to make here and um, and I think that they need our encouragement to try to make the right decision, and I...and I for one want to make it very clear to our Board that, you know, that if I disagree with some of the... some of the decisions they're making, I still want to work with them for it, but he point that I want to make to the Council is that one of the things that I believe I learned in the five months that we worked on this...relative to the free and reduced lunch issue or what has been, uh, come to be known as the free and reduced lunch issue, and that is that we've discovered a disparity in this community that wasn't created by the schools, and yet we attempted to have the schools solve the problem, and that was a mistake, I believe. So the one thing that I would like to ask the Council tonight that I think that you can do is to try to take ownership of that issue. However you manage to do it. Form committees, whatever you decide to do, but take that issue out of the schools because it's...it didn't work when we attempted to try to solve that disparity. So, it is definitely something that needs to be worked on. I hope that I have an opportunity to continue to work on. I hope I have an opportunity to continue to work with more members of this, uh, of this committee that I worked on. One of the best groups that I've ever worked on, and I've worked on a lot of different things in this community. I hope I have another opportunity to work with our Board again. But I'm asking the Council to take ownership of this issue, this free and reduced lunch issue, or whatever we want to call it, because I think that you can...you can make a difference in this issue in ways that we were not able to in the schools. And beyond that, I would really very much encourage you, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 19 uh, I would reiterate some of the points that were made here this evening about encouraging that development on the east side. That will make sure that it remains vital and...and so that we don't have this perception that all the development seems to be going west and north. Thank you. Swisher: I'm not speaking for the Board, and I'm actually not even speaking about, um, high school boundaries, but Mr. Goodfellow brought up a good point. My name's Sarah Swisher. I serve on the School Board and I know that Connie Champion and Susan Mims have worn these sandals before, so I appreciate the work that you did before I got on, and how really tough it is. But, um, just briefly about the elementary schools and the really enormous disparities we have in our elementary programs. This is a place where we really are stymied. There are things we can do with boundaries that mitigate, um, smaller, um, but very...but significant, um, equity issues when it comes to poverty rates in our schools, but our ability to intervene in the elementary schools where there are very high poverty rates, such as Mark Twain, um, Grant Wood where we're up around 70% and where we have what could be associated, uh, proficiency problems down into the teens even for some of our grade school kids. These are things that need to be fixed in a hurry, but what a great opportunity for the City and the School Board to work together on this, because we are...we are stymied. We have this business, this No Child Left Behind, and part of a being a school is that you can opt out of the school. So boundaries are very fluid with these elementary schools, and if we try to change `em and say, okay, we' 11 put some kids here, we' 11 put some kids here, neighborhood schools aside, busing aside, what we know would happen then is then people would move right on out of...of the buildings, um, and would be protected by the law and we'd be providing transportation for them. So that's our limitation, but it does seem to me as a community with...with, uh, with the Council and the Board and all of our constituents working together we could find a way to get over the top of that handicap that we have that really sort of keeps us stuck where we are now. So, um, you know, I have been public in my support, up to this point, of E, F and I want you to know that, um, but that's just me. Obviously that's not the...the rest of the Board, um, and there's still another forum, so I'm, you know, open to hearing what everybody in the community has to say tomorrow night, but I wanted to plant that seed of creativity with you all, especially a couple people who have vast experience working with the schools about what we can do with, um, these really highly impoverished, uh, schools, and thank you so much for hearing everybody tonight. I was very much against it when, um, Coralville intervened and then there were some really good messages coming out o£.of that forum, and I was really glad to hear when Iowa City decided to set up and, um, step up and hear from your constituents as well, so thank you so much. Hayek: Thank you. Channon: Hi, my name's Maura Channon and I'm a junior at City High, and I'm just wanting to convey a message on behalf of the City High students who haven't This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 20 said much yet in this whole ordeal, but um, what has been said about our school is both like offensive and appalling, and it's just in a lot of ways very untrue and that people are worried about sending their kids to school with a lot of, um, free and reduced...a high free and reduced population, but um, I think it's very benefitting to students to go to a different school, and I don't...I think it's kind of not quite right that people want to let one school fall by keeping certain kids out and certain kids in, and yeah, that's I've got to say. Thank you! Hayek: Thank you. Freerks: Hi, my name is Ann Freerks and I live on South Governor Street. And...I'm on the Planning and Zoning Commission here for the City of Iowa City, and I wanted to clear it with all of you that I'm not speaking for the Planning and Zoning Commission in any way, but just um, my own opinions here. Um, I think...I say that because I've learned a lot in the past few years, um, being part of that committee, Planning and Zoning Commission, um, it's taken, uh, quite some time for the development patterns to occur that have occurred and um, I think an important point here is that we have a number of communities that are responsible, uh, we have North Liberty, we have Coralville, we have Johnson County, and we have the City of Iowa City. So, um, I don't think it's something that you alone can work on, and I don't think it's something that the School District alone can work on. I actually think that there needs to be more conversation among all of the groups, um, that, uh, make choices. I know that if there are different codes and um, for all of the communities, and I know that that complicates things sometimes, so um, I do have to say in the past few years I've been a little disappointed with the lack of communication that, uh, the commission has been able to have sometimes with, uh, the School Board, um, when it comes to developments, and I know that we've kind of been told, or it's understood, that it's not really, um, something that we should be concerned about, I think, and I do feel that over time it is something that we should be concerned about, and I just wanted to make that clear. I...I personally am in favor of two strong schools. I think that, um, when it comes to elementary schools, it's a little more difficult because you have a...many smaller areas. You have neighborhood schools being one of the first of the four criteria that were considered, but when it comes to high schools, you have two buildings right now. Um, I just think this should be totally achievable to make two very strong balanced high schools, and um, I think that we need to take a close look at that. I don't expect you to make, um, very technical tweaks and to submit that to the School Board. I think that would be inappropriate, but I do think that there needs to be more conversation. We can all have...take a deep breath here and say that maybe we need to take another look at what the, um, redistricting committee has, um, taken a lot of time to put together. I know there was a lot of work on their part that went into that, so...that's all I have to say. Thank you. Hayek: Thank you. Would anyone else like to address the Council? (mumbled) hesitate at this point because somebody always pops up and (laughter) but maybe not! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 21 Going once! Going twice! Yes! (person away from mic) That's fine! Yeah, bring it to the Clerk, please. Karr: Could I have a motion to accept all correspondence if you'd like at this time? Champion: Move to accept all correspondence. Bailey: Second. Hayek: Moved by Champion, seconded by Bailey. Discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. Motion carries. Okay. As I'm not hearing, uh, or seeing anyone, I'm going to, uh, end the public portion of this discussion and uh, at this time we can turn to the City Council for discussion. Mims: Well, I'll start. Um, some of last comments that were made, uh, were made regarding housing, and just to...to let you know, I don't have all my dates, but a couple meetings ago at one of our work sessions we were talking about whether or not to start looking at inclusionary zoning, with this whole issue of having a lot oflow-income housing in, congregated in certain areas and talking about the impact that that has on the schools, and I can personally say, I mean, I was on the School Board from 96 to 99, and I remember as a School Board member being unhappy with the City Council (laughter) for the fact that we were getting, uh, a lot of housing concentrated in certain areas way back then, and so as was said, this is something that has gone on, uh, for a long time. Also as was mentioned it's not just Iowa City, and so at our meeting one of the things that we, uh, basically directed staff was to take this to JCCOG, which is the Johnson County Council of Governments for discussion with Coralville, North Liberty, University Heights, and unincorporated Johnson County to see if there was any way of coming to any kind of, um, agreement because the concern being that we have developers that work all around Johnson County and trying to come up with some kind of a consistent plan, if at all possible, that might affect how they do development and the requirements in terms of including affordable housing and how that might be done. So that process has been started, uh, I can't tell you anything other than that, that it has been started. Um, in terms of the rest of our discussion, um, you know, having been on the School Board, let me, uh, reiterate what some of you have said tonight, and I think what all of us have said as we discussed this last week, uh, this is unquestionably a decision for the School Board, okay? In no way by holding this meeting, uh, is it our intent to try and, uh, undermine or pressure, whatever, the School Board. It is the School Board's decision and...and we had a discussion early on of whether we, you know, should do something like this when Coralville first did theirs and we thought, you know, we didn't really want to do it, but as things kept going and we started hearing from a lot of our own constituents, we felt we had a responsibility to respond to those people who were asking for us to basically look at this and hold a public forum and hear from people in our community, and so that was our decision to do that. My personal concerns, um... are a couple in particular, um, the fiscal situation, the financial This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 22 situation, we as a City Council, um, are facing a lot of financial issues in trying to balance our budget as we look at this...that this fall and this early spring, and I certainly know that that is a concern for the School Board, um, and certainly the School Board has a whole different set of constraints and if you've never looked at School Board finance that's a real long exercise in complexity, based on state regulations. Um, but that's...that's abig concern, and that's where one of my concerns comes in, going to a third high school too soon. Um, I think...I hope everybody would realize at some point we are going to need a third high school. I cannot imagine that this district is not going to continue to grow enough to the point that we will have to have a third high school, at some point. My concern, my hope would be that we don't go to it so soon that we tear apart our two good high schools, and excellent alternative high school, uh, that we already have in the district. Is there any perfect time to do it? No there's not, because either you have temporary buildings for a number of years because you're already over capacity at City and West before you open that new school, or you build extra capacity and then you empty it out. So it's going to be a challenge. I just hope that we don't rush into it, um, particularly as we're looking at a million to $1.7 million in additional operating costs for a new high school, um, that money has to come from somewhere. It's going to impact the programming...Ityould have to believe at all levels of our district. As the School Board looks at this, I...I would hope that they would do everything that they can to stick with the criteria that they gave to the committee to begin with, and I hope that the free and reduced lunch balancing to whatever extent they can do that still looking at fiscal constraints, busing, neighborhood schools...I realize you have conflicting things that you're trying to put together, but I think that free and reduced lunch, um, is a big issue and maybe...maybe more at the elementary level than the high school. But, I...I hope that that will certainly be at the forefront from...as you look at those. Um, from there I' 11 quit and let somebody else. Champion: Um, I guess I could go next. Um, I know I can't make the decision for the School Board, but this is a very important decision for me. Um, I think the City Council has every right to ask you to listen to us. This is a matter of neighborhood preservation in Iowa City. You've already closed one grade school, Roosevelt, which I know...I'm not faulting you for that, but when we pass the sales tax it was to rejuvenate some of these old schools, I'm not sure when the last time a new school was built on the east side, and we have overcrowding here too. Now you're talking about building a high school before you have the kids to fill it. I've never heard of building a school till you had kids to fill it. I wish when I was on the School Board that we could build a school wherever we wanted to. We added on to every school; many, many temporaries before we ever got a grade school built. At West High was at one time small...how many years was it before West High got an auditorium and a football field? It doesn't happen overnight, and that school was built when there were kids to put in there. So I'm very much against the political pressures you're getting for a third high school at this point. I'm not saying we're never going to need it. But how do you know, I mean, projections are not always right, but this is...this is an important decision that you're going to This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 23 make that's going to affect this community a lot. And it's important to me that you consider that. You're not just an isolated governmental body. You're very much a part of what Iowa City is...is about. And so I just wanted you to consider those things. I for one have voiced support for no more low-income housing on the east side of town, period! Uh, the east side of town has several schools in trouble, uh, Mark Twain, Grant Wood, Lucas...is it Lucas? Uh, City High's got some problems, and every low-income house that's built in Iowa City will eventually go to those east side schools. So this is the problem that the City Council does have to deal with, and we'll need community support to deal with it, but I'm asking the School Board tonight, I think I voted for almost all of you (laughter) to consider what your decision is going to do to Iowa City, and...and thank you very much for coming tonight and thank all of you for coming. It's good to hear from the public. Hayek: (laughter and talking) We can skip over you! Wright: That's okay, I can talk now. I've got some voice left. Uh, first of all I do want to express thanks to everybody that came out tonight. It's been quite a while since we've seen the place packed, uh, quite this much. Champion: How bout the 21 issue? Wright: I don't think it was (laughter) it wasn't this full for the 21 issue, I mean, schools are more important than drinking. That's a good thing! (laughter) Uh, and you know, I mean, I can only agree with both Connie and Susan. This is a tremendously complicated issue, uh, and uh, the School Board...thanks to the School Board...that any time people ask me if City Council is tough, I always say it's not as tough as being on the School Board. It's a very, very difficult position to be in, but there's an awful lot of, uh, pressure on all sides I'm sure. At the same time, what we've heard tonight is a tremendous amount of support for two strong high schools in Iowa City. We have two strong high schools right now. I'm concerned if we do have a third high school built in the very near future, we're going to have some real serious equity problems. Equity both in terms of education, both...equity in terms of...of who gets to attend the new high school, um, I would much rather see us put the scarce resources into building up the two...the two fine institutions that we have, and I speak as somebody who lives just on the east side of town, just a few blocks from City Hall. Um...the, the other issues when we start getting into the free and reduced lunches with the grade school do get much more complicated. It does get into, uh, policies that the City has had, both written and unwritten over the years in terms of our zoning and in terms of just practice, but uh, and...and at this point in time I'm not prepared to address those issues. That's extremely complicated. But looking at the high schools, I...I certainly would like to encourage the Board to consider the, uh, the two strong schools, going forward, um... and. as Connie very aptly pointed out, it doesn't make a lot of sense to start building for a school when you don't quite have the enrollment to fill it. So let's...I'd really like to see us keep our resources This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 24 in the two, uh, existing buildings and if I'm babbling a little bit, I'm just flying real high on antihistamines tonight (laughter). Thank you. Hayek: We'll keep the order here. Um, the City's responsibility is to promote the welfare of the entire community, and the actions that the City of Iowa City takes, uh, whether it's programming or... or infrastructure, uh, or funding, uh, should be taken with that goal in mind. Um, and that's one reason I'm pleased, this has been mentioned before, uh, that we are going to be taking a closer look at some very difficult issues regarding housing and poverty this year yet. That has been a very tough set of issues to tackle for the City. Uh, the School District faces those issues as well, um, but the City is, uh, looking at those issues. There are no easy...no easy answers, but...but that is happening, and by the way, um, the housing issues as they relate to the City, um, are something that the City has discussed for some period of time, in fact before I became a Member of the City Council I served on a task force, uh, to, uh, look at housing issues as they relate to, uh, school populations. Um, now that was, uh, a situation in which the School District, in approximately 2004, asked the City to look at some of those issues because of the impacts perceived and actual on the School District, and...and the City, uh, formed a committee. I was asked to be a part of it, uh, we did a lot of work. We reported findings back to the City, um, and...and that sort of thing, and I think it was a good example of...of one elected body being responsive to another's request for...for assistance on an issue, and that's I think the only way that we as an entire community are going to solve the...some of the challenges that...that face us, despite living in a wonderful place that by all measures, uh, is the envy of the Midwest, and indeed the nation, we do have issues, and this opportunity for collaboration between local elected bodies and their staffs is...is critical, uh, for these issues. Um, I also respect the difficulty the School Board's, uh, set of decisions on these redistricting issues. Uh, I can't imagine the political pressure you find yourselves under. We face some pretty heavy duty things up here, uh, at the City Council, but they are varied, they change and the constituents change and the issues change and uh, we get a steady barrage, but...but I don't know that it's necessarily takes on the intensity and focus that School District issues do because they're in a lot of ways a narrower set of issues than the City has to deal with. So my hats off to you for...for the work you've done, uh, thus far. Having said that, uh, I am convinced as an individual that the apparent direction that the District's taking on these redistricting issues is not in the entire community's interests. Um, and primarily that is because I do not believe that this direction maintains, uh, equal high schools. Um, you can ask the question, why should the City care? And here's my answer to that. When a new business or a new family comes into the community, in my opinion there should be no hesitation whatsoever that the high schools on either side of town offer equal opportunities and equal quality. Um, I think that we will have a situation if we pursue the apparent direction, um, where the opportunities and the quality will not be equal between the high schools. Um, I think this will be...the case in both actual terms and I think it will worsen the existing and pernicious perception that it is not the case. Um, this is dangerous for the entire community, um, I also think This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 25 it's avoidable. And, uh, that's...and my job is to worry about the entire community, um, that's why I take an interest in this, um, and...and I...I...well, I'll stop talking at this point, but...but uh, I feel very strongly about this and uh, and hope my colleagues up here do too. Bailey: Um, I once again want to express my appreciation for the work that the School Board has in front of it. It is very, very difficult as we have all said, um, but I want to note that our entities have complimentary tasks in front of them, and as the Mayor said, when a business comes to town, I would say among the first things they look at is the school district, and I can assure you when a business comes to town, one of the things that they want to do is cross a town off their list because they have so many options, and any kind of inequity throughout a community insofar as their schools would cross us off a list. I know this for a fact, because if there...if their workers, if their staff cannot locate anywhere in this community that they chose...where they find a residence that appeals to them, that it's not going to be an appealing place for them to locate, and in the long run, this will impact the School District, this will impact the City, this will impact the County, this will impact the other municipalities in the County, so this is something that we have to be concerned about, um, altogether. I mean, obviously it's not just about economic development, but that's a lense, um, by, through which I look at things quite frequently, and that concerns me greatly, um, I'm a proud graduate of West High School, when we didn't have a theater and we didn't have a football field, well, we didn't really have a football team when I graduated (laughter) um, but I grew up on the east side and this talk of feeder schools is...is interesting to me because I was delighted to be a sixth grader at Grant Wood, go to Southeast Junior High, and scramble over to the west side to make a new life for myself as a high schooler at West High with people I didn't know, and I think it's, um, I don't think we should shy away from that. I think...I taught in rural Iowa where kids are saying, oh my gosh! I've gone to school with these kids forever. There's nobody to take to prom because we were in kindergarten together and I knew she ate paste so why would I want to date her and take her to prom or something like that so I think the opportunity in our district to...to go with, um, some creative solutions to address and make sure that we have two strong high schools. We have a lot of opportunity in front of us, and there are two ways to address issues. We can try to shore up the gaps and the weaknesses that we have, or we can address and strengthen our assets, and in difficult economic times the smartest thing to do is to pour your energy into the strengths that you have, and what we have here are two strong high schools. And I would hope, and I would hope that the Council, um, would communicate this formally in a letter to the District that we support, um, strengthening the assets that we have at our two strong high schools, and looking at a scenario that, um, can continue to have this community be this magnet for the rest of the state, where people really want to live, they have no hesitation of living anywhere in the district, and they want to work, live, play, raise a family here, and it's something that, you know, graduates of this district, we can be really proud, I mean, no matter what high school we went to. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 26 Dickens: First I'd like to apologize for being late. I was out of town and then had to close up our store tonight, but uh, I'm...in favor, like Regenia said, that two schools, making those both very strong is very important. I went to Mark Twain, Southeast before I went to Regenia and...where I, after I graduated I did serve on their school board there, but different issues. Um, like Susan also said, the housing, uh, I've talked to the Homebuilders, I know they've got some information that they're passing along because they're the people that are going to be building these new neighborhoods, so we have to work with them as well as the Planning and Zoning. And, uh, I do have a daughter that teaches out at Kirkwood Elementary. She's a fourth grade teacher. I hear some wonderful stories, and I hear some horror stories, but uh, overall the kids are great, and if anybody wants to come see my rock talk, I give a jewelry talk, it'll be next Friday at 12:00 (laughter) out at Kirkwood Elementary. Hayek: Okay, well, we've all expressed our individual feelings, uh, what direction do we want to take, if any, uh, as a... as an elected body? Wright: I'd like to see us make a formal (mumbed) I'd like to see us make a formal communication to the School Board. Bailey: I agree. Champion: I would too. Mims: I would just say, you know, as we've kind of talked down the line here and people have talked about, you know, really focusing on the two school, two high schools, from that perspective, um, in any official communication that we do send, I would like us to certainly acknowledge the fact that we realize some day, you know, we will need a third high school. We're not...I would hope as an elected body, we're not saying that we don't think we'll ever need a third high school. I guess my position, as stated earlier, is that acknowledging that we'll need one, but let's move slowly and judicially on that, to make sure that, um, we can do it in the manner, or the District can do it in a manner that is, um, has the least amount of detrimental effect to our existing, uh, two comprehensive high schools and our alternative high school, uh, again, as people have said, the...there's projections out there, but you never know what's really going to happen, and um, not wanting to rush into a commitment, um, I... if I were on the School Board, and I've been there, I would rather be a year or two too late with a high school and be busting at the seams, rather than three or four years too early and taking all those resources away from all the other kids in the district. So I would not want any official communication that we send to make it seem like we're just saying, oh, two high schools forever. I would also like to encourage them to, um, look really strongly at their own criteria, which included a free and reduced lunch. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 27 Wright: Yeah, I don't think any of us...think that a new high school won't be needed some day. Champion: (mumbled) (laughter) Wright: But you always try to be crankier! (laughter) Um, sooner later we want the district to continue to grow, and to continue to prosper to the point that we do, that we will need a new high school one of these days. But...you know, it's, you can apply the same criteria to a car. I'm going to need a new car one of these days, but I hope it's not now. We'll save and we'll...uh, know that the day's going to come, and when it comes we'll recognize and be ready for it. Bailey: I would also note that what we do now affects...if we will need a third high school because the district has to remain strong to remain an attractor, and if it doesn't do that, um, that third high school, its distance moves, away from us. Mims: I don't know if this letter is the...the appropriate time or place to do this, but comments have been made both up here tonight and by the audience that while we may not want to acknowledge it, um, unfortunately there is by some people in this community the perception that City High is a second-class school. Okay? Um, I have had a number of realtors tell me that by the time they even get to talk to a new professional who's coming into town, be it a doctor at the Hospital, a new coach at the University, whatever it might be, by the time they even get to talk to them they have already been convinced make sure you live so you go to west side schools. You know, they don't even want to look at housing on the east side. So whether we want to acknowledge it or not, that perception does exist in this community, and whether you agree or...on this or not, let me know, but I guess I would like to encourage the School District and the School Board to do what they can in, you know, public communications, whatever, to help, um, dispel that incorrect perception, uh, in this community so as new people come they don't automatically get slated to one side of town. I think you said, Matt, you know, just...I know when we built our house 27 years ago, I never even thought about what schools my kids would be going to, cause I wasn't worried about it! Never even thought about it. Cause .every elementary school in this town was good. Every junior high, every high school, I didn't...I was so confident in this district...that Idid not even look at the schools. That had nothing to do with our decision as to where we moved, and I would like that to be the case again in this community. Champion: That's a really good point, Susan. That's absolutely true. We moved a lot cause our family kept growing, the house kept getting smaller, but...I never, my criteria wasn't the school. It was can my kids walk to...walk to the school, walk to the junior high and walk to the high school. So, that would determine where I lived, but that's a really good point, cause that's not true right now. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 28 Hayek: I...I agree. I'm...in full disclosure I'm a City High School graduate. My grandfather was a 19...I don't know what, uh, graduate of City High when it was in a different building, um, and I would...I see my old football coach over there. I was one of his more mediocre players, uh, in..in the 80s. Um, but...but that is something that is absolutely ridiculous. The notion that City High is somehow a second class school. It is not the case objectively, uh, and...and it shouldn't be the case on any other level, and I want to applaud while I have the opportunity the School Board's hiring of John Bacon. I see him in the crowd (applause) and I think it was a wonderful selection, and uh, and I'm excited for Mr. Bacon's tenure at City High. I would add, uh, Susan to your comments, and for the Council's consideration, that...that whatever communication, and let's say it's a letter, um, reference some of the issues on which the District and City have collaborated, could collaborate. We've talked...as we talk about these housing and other issues, we...interspersed in our conversation has been this, you know, repeated suggestion that we, uh, use this as an opportunity to work with the School District in terms of future planning, whether it's zoning, uh, development issues, you name it, um, and...and I think that would be an appropriate part of a message. Mims: I would agree. When I met with Steve Rackis from the City Housing Department, Housing Authority a week or so ago, the City has put together a new map that shows a lot of the low income housing where Section 8 vouchers are, etc., etc., and I was talking to him about the fact of being able to include from the District's database, uh, locations of free and reduced lunch students, and he said I think they already have that, and have already overlaid it on that map, and he didn't have it in the office that day, but I think when we get to that point to, you know, try and schedule, you know, maybe a joint meeting or subcommittee of the Council and the School Board to kind of look at that together and look at what we could do from a zoning perspective and how that would impact their boundaries so that hopefully that they can get some boundaries...not that this will...not that we'll get to that point before they do redistricting. I don't mean that, but that we can look at things then from a longer term perspective that hopefully will help them in the longer term in terms of those boundaries. Bailey: I would hope however that the letter really focuses on the decision at hand, expressing our interest in collaboration and... and noting the, uh, collaborations that we've had in the past, it is a really focused letter, and I would also suggest sending that letter to the Iowa City Press-Citizen for those, for the benefit of those who were not able to attend, or don't access the Council packets or direct correspondence, so they can understand, um, exactly why the Council met tonight, um, what the discussion was, the participation and um, that we do not believe that this is our decision, but um, we are supportive and naturally our work, um, intersects with the work of the School District. Hayek: Unless there are other specific, uh, recommendations for this letter, what I would suggest is that, uh, I work with staff to come up with,uh, at least a draft and um, I suppose Eleanor, can I...run that by individuals? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010. Page 29 Dilkes: You can have individuals look at it. Hayek: Yeah, maybe...in lieu of bringing us all back and trying to schedule (several talking) I' 11 do my best... best at taking a first stab at a letter, and then uh, run it by you individually for... for edits and approval. Champion: And, um, I would...well, might be a good idea (mumbled) Regenia could write it or you and somebody else or... Hayek: Yeah, I'd be happy, I have no pride of authorship (several talking) yeah. Dilkes: Why don't we do a motion? Bailey: I would make that motion that we, uh, send a letter and also make it available to the newspaper. Mims: Second. Hayek: Moved by Bailey, seconded by Mims. Discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. Motion carries unanimously. Dilkes: And the understanding is that it'll be under the Mayor's signature, without a subsequent Council meeting (several responding) Hayek: Okay. Okay, anything else within the Council on this issue? If not we need a motion to adjourn. Bailey: So moved. Dickens: Second. Hayek: Moved by Bailey, seconded by Dickens. Discussion? All those in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. We are adjourned. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the special formal Iowa City City Council meeting of May 3, 2010.